The typical Crich town M.O. was that god awful writing style, so I’m not gonna jump to conclusions just yet but wow…its like a complete 180 in such a short time.
Thinking so far CRich/Seth/TBE are my strongest TRs rn with Arete/Katze/Ami as leans.
Jane/Merc both look relatively wolfy so far.
I’m… memeing quite a bit less than usual this game?
Like, a majority of my posts haven’t been memes 
TBE is probably village from his ISO. I don’t see any differences this game compared to his other town games. I’ve never seen him as wolf, though I don’t think a wolf TBE world is likely here.
You seem to be more serious and less jokey this game. It’s almost as though you’re not in the mood to make memes this game.
I think you could just say “don’t over rely on good players and just solve for yourself”
This opener feels off (I will say more about TBE later)
This could be TBE’s new playstylen, but his opening posts did feel off
61.5
That over reliance on good players is bad and that we shouldn’t be as trusting
I said we were misclearing someone and pointed to Ans being the miscleared one, but no one agreed with me until it was too late.
Jane is a WOLF WOLF WOLF (JK, and that’s enough meme posting)
I could see that
I think there is a difference, don’t know if it’s a good or bad difference
It’s his whole tone, it seems off, which could come from a different playstyle, but I won’t dismiss it as just a “change of playstyle”
I thought the same thing about Seth in 61.5, but I won’t act like Seth is scum right now
She can fake that
post em anyway
I think you could form some possible scum teams and get quite a few reads off of what’s available
You do know I will have a hard time ever trusting you
It’s possible, but I think there is possibly a wolf between you and Arete.
Stuff like this makes me conflicted over TBE
They mostly are late game
Blue is usually pretty towny out of the gate, but no so much here.
They did make an entire post reading merc as town, read into that as you will. It’s a possibility
It’s kind of expected from you Katze
Annoyance can be faked
Katze and Marshal are never W/W here
But you just said I was memeing as usual and followed that up with “when I’m serious” which implies you don’t think I’m being serious this game
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I should have spoilered that, but it is what it is now. I also think that since I didn’t have to wade through 3k posts that it’s a good thing
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In ToS 2 you kept up with the meme claims for quite a while. This game not so much.
I actually do, but give me a second to come up with a post. Well, not solid conclusions, but reads non the less.
Out of curiosity, how do you two plan on reading Feathering and the other new player?
This slot is probably not group scum. At worst he is probably a lost wolf as his posts don’t show signs of being coached on how to write to not stand out for the wrong reasons.
note that I didnt read any of these people’s ISOs, just the recent bit with the whole argument
and I read that argument a few times now
Arete
Arete’s reads is doing gymnastics
I take these posts as SLing Marshal
flips to TL?
I cant tell which way this is going, but I think TL?
yep, TL
flips back to SL
flips back to TL
null now? I think
Even in wolf games ive read/been in Arete is usually isn’t like this
not 100 on what to take this like, seeing as it doesnt fit what id think of W!Arete or V!Arete, but its wolfy ignoring meta so ima just take it as wolfy. Could also be because there were a few misunderstandings and such that made really explaining opinions hard. Arete made a few paragraphs but the read never stayed still so…could you try to organize exactly what you mean?
note after reading it while focusing on Marshal: I think the slot becomes a bit better. Still convoluted, but Marshal’s arguments do have their thorns and roses, so Arete’s flip flopping could look better. Still want to know here mindset through every change.
Marshal
Marshal’s perspective seems towny when I first read through it
This…doesn’t make sense? I don’t think kat has or did have a lot of thread control? Got support against you, but isn’t really strong-arming the thread as you later put it
another OMGUS read(like kat) where you just kinda SR your SRer
so once Arete SRed you, you couldn’t understand her thought process anymore
if it wasn’t for timing, id be prone to agree with you, because I don’t really understand it earlier.
this post is long so I didnt quote the whole thing but I am responding to the whole thing
The two posts that you say that fit under ‘towny arete’ I don’t think are very towny. I haven’t actually looked at Arete’s ISO but
Answering for someone else is a habit I have - its not AI. I will assume its the same case with Blizer, because…answering for someone else is not usually AI.
how do you like that post. ‘how did you know kat was NK’ is not a way to get anything AI? The only off chance is that kat said something in scumchat with Blizer in which he can still say that he read the game. It doesn’t feel like you could actually get anything from that but waaht ever
it was a neut read and it was incredibly early on, which…was odd. People will jump on it.
Do think that this post was a towny mindset
you don’t see logic
do you see that agenda?
Personally, while I don’t see logic, I don’t see agenda. Rather, posts just seem convoluted, though I am kinda understanding Arete’s read the more I re-read this
This is exactly why I find it hard to just accept V!Marshal
the OMGUS-ness-ness
about
oh.
Im actually seeing Marshal’s point
IIoA just like this post is the entire post. Looking back rather then relating it.
however IIoA isn’t always wolfy from experience and using information can be how you reach a conclusion. That’s how I usually did it, though admittedly its not very popular.
There also is a conclusion. Its at the start.
[quote=“Marshal, post:413, topic:82131”]
Still did do it after you prompted. Still is a conclusion.
this post(the whole thing) I want to say is a towny perspective but…its too self-aware. It acknowledges what he usually does and is replicating it. Don’t like it, though I could see a town writing it.
used to agree
thought reading this over I can kinda see where Arete is coming from? I think I have an idea of how their reads is working but I want to see how they explain it.
So as I said the first time I read this I thought Marshal was V from it but after reading it again its more eh. I don’t like it as much reading through it again. OMGUS, some instances that could be labeled as agenda and the only thing really going for em is that some posts seem to come from a towny mindset. Gonna say this is wolfy overall.
The OMGUS reads do make some sense though, so id like to see some take on people who aren’t pressuring the slot and see if it still matches.
Katze
The RT was stupid
im going to specifically look at the RT over…other posts because it was all just around it
so yeah this will be shorter
I don’t now what softs you were referencing but I am prone to agree with the read you call completely fake
I also don’t think that part is particularly AI
I have no clue what you mean by this
but the quoted post is a very stupid reason to clear someone
NGL I was paying more attention to arete/marshal I still wouldntve noticed it
I agreed with the first one, but might I ask what exactly you got from it?
I kinda want to TR kat for this but Im not srue I can say its out of scum range
eh heck it trying to find ulterior motives in reads is towny you get a TL
luck
hopefully the same way I could read others
TMI, RTs, what they say/do
something like that