[Game Thread] Meowntainado (4/14) - Day 5 - Mafia Wins!

[Marshal]

I saw that song in my yt reccomended like 3 mins ago funnily enough, was listening to amber by 311 when i saw it

[Aelin]

amber
inhales
softly whispers is the color of your energy

[Marshal]

yeah im a fan, thanks radio station for throwing that one at me

[Aelin]

Have you heard of Rainbow Kitten Surprise?

[cabbage]

I think I understand what you’re saying, but their abrasiveness comes across to me as just their playstyle rather than indicative of their alignment, given that her other non-alignment indicative posts (throwing out unexplained reads for example) are given in a similar manner.

You mention that I “never contested the reasoning” - what exactly are you referring to there?

[Chloe]

@an_gorta_pratai has replaced @Grace

Please do not discuss the nature of this substitution.

[Marshal]

im referring to emilia’s point where they mentioned that you didnt refute their reasoning for the push on you but claimed that pushing you was wolfy. I thought that them claiming that contradiction was villagery asf tbh because it is something that would make them feel in the right and makes their argument therefore seem more likely from town imho.

@Aelin

Have you heard of Rainbow Kitten Surprise?

one of my friends likes them, not a huge fan personally

[Marshal]

Weird trade but ill take it

Gooooooooorta
my man
cmere
we can do this

[Wendy]

@Marshal

what song you listening to rn meowtainado playerlist?

None. Just watching some TV.

@Chloe

@an_gorta_pratai has replaced @Grace

Please do not discuss the nature of this substitution.

Hey Gorta!

[an_gorta_pratai]

I have read most of the game

[Marshal]

hit us with some of them gortakes then

[EliThePsycho]

>radio silence

[Ketsuban]

Marshal - lean town, low confidence
Arctic - scumlean. entrance posts were reactionary, kind of liked a couple things, don’t think they’re enough to move him up
Emilia - townread, came out of the gate aggressive in a towny way
EliThePsycho - townlean, need to read closely but feels okay so far? i need a better read here most likely
Princess_Daisy - townread. had a good reaction to pressure
Marluxion - scumlean. entrance was bad and has felt more comfortable fluffing than posting content
Wazza - lean scum for low impact posting? this should probably be a null read
Hippolytus - scumread, has been pushing things from the outside and not invested in solving the game
cabbage - slight scumread, focus has felt fairly narrow. this could be nai, though? tonally feels awkward in their interactions with marshal
Aelin - townread, like the entrance aggression and pressuring in a way that feels natural
Luxy - null, none of their posts convince me they’re out of either range
Ketsuban - 01100111 01101100 01101001 01110100 01100011 01101000
Wendy - townread, i think the conviction in her push on eli and argument with marshal feels highly genuine
Grace → an_gorta_pratai - null, no content

[Ketsuban]

Ketsuban
Wendy
Daisy
Emilia
Aelin

Marshal
Eli

Luxy
an_gorta
Wazza

Marluxion
cabbage
Arctic

Hippolytus

[Aelin]

is everyone else just reading emilia in a different way from me or am i just smarter

[Ketsuban]

how are you reading emilia?

[Aelin]

i dont actually remember
i dont like their posting in general but i couldnt give you anything tangible

[Ketsuban]

could you read their iso and do that then?

because otherwise you don’t have much of a reason to shade townreads on her like this

[Aelin]

Shading is an incorrect term to use here but ok
ill get around to it eventually
probably

[Wendy]

@Ketsuban

Marshal - lean town, low confidence
Arctic - scumlean. entrance posts were reactionary, kind of liked a couple things, don’t think they’re enough to move him up
Emilia - townread, came out of the gate aggressive in a towny way
EliThePsycho - townlean, need to read closely but feels okay so far? i need a better read here most likely
Princess_Daisy - townread. had a good reaction to pressure
Marluxion - scumlean. entrance was bad and has felt more comfortable fluffing than posting content
Wazza - lean scum for low impact posting? this should probably be a null read
Hippolytus - scumread, has been pushing things from the outside and not invested in solving the game
cabbage - slight scumread, focus has felt fairly narrow. this could be nai, though? tonally feels awkward in their interactions with marshal
Aelin - townread, like the entrance aggression and pressuring in a way that feels natural
Luxy - null, none of their posts convince me they’re out of either range
Ketsuban - 01100111 01101100 01101001 01110100 01100011 01101000
Wendy - townread, i think the conviction in her push on eli and argument with marshal feels highly genuine
Grace → an_gorta_pratai - null, no content

@Ketsuban

Ketsuban
Wendy
Daisy
Emilia
Aelin

Marshal
Eli

Luxy
an_gorta
Wazza

Marluxion
cabbage
Arctic

Hippolytus

I like this, thank you. A ton of (In my opinion) Independent thoughts on everyone. Glad to know I share for the most part similar v reads/leans as someone else. I do invite you to look at the posts I’ve made on Eli. I understand from afar he may look good but a lot of his reads/responses are genuinely wolfy and awkward. Especially the ones replying to me.

Some posts I've made which highlight this opinion on Eli which I'd appreciate if someone took an actual deep look at what I have to say. Obviously don't open this if you don't want to. You can think of this as a case even I guess.

@Wendy

@EliThePsycho

reread shenanigans

Hmm.

@EliThePsycho

okay

so
am i stupid for thinking this might be a wolf attempting to slow down thread

No. This slot is considered consensus for many.

@EliThePsycho

i might be confbiasing

but like
it feels like
>make a joke (?) read as a wolf
>get called out on it
>oh no i have to justify it
(granted that’s more of a newbwolf thing and princess daisy is almost guranteed an alt)

If Daisy is an alt, you using this as reasoning when you know yourself it’s more of a newbwolf thing seems awfully weird to do. You’re also implying I’m partnered with Daisy which I dislike, because I’m town.

@EliThePsycho

this

feels
off
somehow
i can’t pinpoint it
but
gutread

I dislike this. You’re allowed to have gutreads, but this just outright looks like shade thrown onto Emilia. I’m unsure whether I should give the benefit of the doubt on it though.

@EliThePsycho

WIFOM reasoning

not exactly AI, but

Valid reasoning.

@EliThePsycho

okay i don’t like this read

Why

@EliThePsycho

OMGUS

don’t rely on it, please

Something I actually agree on here.

@EliThePsycho

this feels like mafia trying to make a bad post/read/whatever and trying to cover it up

This isn’t a bad read, therefore im not trying to cover it up. What?

@EliThePsycho

same thing as the first quote

This isn’t even a read… It’s Cabbage telling people to stop talking.

@EliThePsycho

i agree with this

it is, in fact, wolfy

If you think its wolfy, do you still wolfread me?

@EliThePsycho

why does this make me think it’s w/w

Yeah…no. This sucks and you’re clearly just trying to partner me with people.

@Wendy

I just disagree. I’m not reading him based off of the fact he made a wallpost. I’m reading him based off of the content in those wallposts. I heavily disliked most of what he said. If you haven’t seen already why, I would look at the post I made again.

@Wendy

I don’t like the fact this sounds like Eli’s meta is just “being bad” as wolf. Can’t literally anyone easily give an independent thought as wolf? My opinion is unchanged as the content of his reads aren’t good and I refuse to townread him based off of the fact he posted something as simple as saying X is wolf.

@Wendy

@EliThePsycho

i think that any other reads i could come up with are meaningless

sorry i completely forgot this post wasn’t finished

@EliThePsycho

nono

it’s literally just things like
“marshal is putting in effort”

Both of these posts are easily fakeable and not even AI in the first place.

I do Rescind what I said about the easily fakeable part. Not because I suddenly V read Eli, but because these do not need to be faked. This is NAI speech.

@Wendy

I’m actually thinking for myself this game, and when you finally realize that your accusation of me being wolfy because I have an independent read on Eli (The apparent reason why you think he is so towny in the first place) isn’t good, hopefully you will also realize how strange it is that everyone else in the game is easily townreading him. Honestly, thinking about it now, that is the one thing he has going for him that could even possibly make my read change is the fact that everyone here is saying nothing but “Eli v, Eli is an obvious villager!”. Because that indicates to me honestly that there’s someone that likely has tmi.

@Wendy

@EliThePsycho

i uh

don’t think so
but okay

Several people have stated they wolfread cabbage.

@EliThePsycho

i was?

i didn’t think i was

You did. Reread what you said. You said that it looked like a wolf trying to find a reason why they voted their partner.

@EliThePsycho

and i think cabbage telling people to stop talking is wolfy

This doesn’t matter. You said you don’t like this read. That is entirely different.

@EliThePsycho

i-

what
???
i do not see how this warrants a townread
or how they even had that large of an amount

You are misconstruing what I said. I said a townlean. not a townread.

@EliThePsycho

>push me with [reasoning]

>get called out
>"I would never do this as wolf"
idk man, kind of seems like a thing a wolf would do

I didn’t get “called out”, I was called a wolf for no reason other than the fact you are an “obvious villager” which is so untrue. Your meme or whatever is literally just a misrepresentation of what I said. I know how you play. I wouldn’t push v you as w me as it would be a complete waste of anyones time as everyone instantly village reads you and never rescinds ever.

My opinion is unchanged. Eli is a w read, and I believe so more because even more of what he’s stated is just him misrepresenting everything I’ve said to make it easier for him to argue back and call me a wolf.

@Wendy

Your read is wrong because even if Eli initially looked villagery to you because he wallposts all of his posts consist of strawmanning literally all of my reads and even saying things that don’t make sense/are incorrect and you are clearly not focusing on the content he is posting and you are instead focusing on the fact he has posted content and now you are village reading him for it. I’m not acting like any of that. Im pointing out what I believe and you trying to make me out to be doing something else will not stop me believing what I believe. You saying your read is accurate also does nothing as you obviously will be biased towards thinking it is.

@Wendy

His posts are wolfy. Therefore I wolfread him. If you are going to refuse to look past the fact that just because he posted a wallpost doesn’t mean he’s locktown, I don’t know what to tell you, because he has said and done things that make no sense for villagers to do.

@Wendy

you cannot read someone solely based off of volume (unless in special cases, which Eli clearly isn’t) and you know that. Eli isn’t incapable of posting and existing as scum anymore and I’m so incredibly tired of you all acting like he is. He’s posted, he’s done things. It is not hard to post at all. It is not hard to look productive. I am looking directly at the content being posted and the content is bad as in wolfy and I simply am not going to ignore how he is wolfy and just excuse it because he posts a lot. Those posts you showed an example out of? Those literally even if they are/arent unfakeable they literally are NAI.

Overall, I understand that people are reading him based off of volume, but many of his posts are downright wrong/strawmans and extremely awkward in general and I am unable to see towny motivation behind several of his posts.