I get this post and agree with it I just dont like how its written
I dont remember his wolf games but he was aggressive in DGADT and snappy in JoAT9
I understand what you mean though, its more of a passion here
I get this post and agree with it I just dont like how its written
I dont remember his wolf games but he was aggressive in DGADT and snappy in JoAT9
I understand what you mean though, its more of a passion here
uh
ok
Why did it change from a Read to a Lean?
Voted | Voters | Votes |
---|---|---|
Vulgard | SirDerpsALot | 1/14 |
Leafia | Italy | 1/14 |
Sulit | Vulgard | 1/14 |
PokemonKidRyan | Zone_Q11, Soulshade55r | 2/14 |
an_gorta_pratai | Centuries, TheBlueElixir | 2/14 |
PsychoKang | Moleland | 1/14 |
Alice | Insanity, PokemonKidRyan | 2/14 |
Magnus | Light, PsychoKang | 2/14 |
Surge | Wazza | 1/14 |
Insanity | Alice, Surge, ATNoName, Frostwolf103, Whysper | 5/14 |
Soulshade55r | N.1 | 1/14 |
Centuries | Leafia | 1/14 |
mitosis
Wheee ISO time!!!
start-7:40
finish-probably a lot later
W/W should be fine until we know if one is BD or HoB, but then we should be more specific determining if something is BD/BD or HoB/HoB
A lot of mech talk, not much reading, just kinda coasting so far
Vulgard:why are you playing like chloe 2
I do want to make reads, but I felt the need to ask that question. If you read my posts I have said that I think social reads are the way to go, so I was questioning why we should just mech clear people at the drop of a hat
Vulgard:i donāt find the act of asking questions wolfy by itself but when itās all youāre doing then something is wrong because youāre not reaching any conclusions yourself and youāre not showing any thought process
I was sleeping and I havenāt just asked questions. If you look at my ISO (itās very short) I have also made suggestions and done a few things
heh, responds to above. I donāt think the response clears them from the suspicion in any way.
Vulgard:okay this is going to be troublesome because the replacement most likely has different thoughts regardless of their alignment
but Sulit replacing in doesnāt change that slotās alignment, so we shouldnāt ignore Chloeās posts
yet again, talking about āwhat town should doā. This sort of talk is really easy for scum and a bit of a red flag for me.
Donāt accuse high posters of being a wolf just because they have a higher post could and are good and donāt clear low posters just for being inactive.
ugh even more of it. They arenāt solving, theyāre talking about āgood playā. Like that stuffās important if people are driving the gamestate into a wall, but they arenāt even trying to read the people who are doing this.
Scumread - a lot of mech/āgood playā talk, literally no reading going on.
Main thoughts:
Iām liking Chloe for trying to keep the thread on track so far, trying not to concentrate too hard on the bleed
Also, the bleed: Very quickly in the game. If itās real, Iām going to say that itās NAI whatsoever, as it is a multiball. Odds are that Vulgard is town, but I could say that about every single person here.
Leafia, I will need to see a bit more of before I can really be sure of anything. She has a reputation of being very wolfy in all of her games, even when town. I do not like the self-meta, though.
I do not see any reason why Intensify expressing doubt on the bleed is AI, and definitely not to the degree of voting them (from Vulgard).
Italy is beingā¦ oddly active. Other people may know their activity tells better than I do, but Iām pretty sure that them participating is scum indicative.
Making reads in their poener, me likey
I donāt remember much of Soulās posts. He was pushing Leafia, I think?
I agree, vanity wagons are actually pretty good at this point in the game. Pressure on lowposters is something I encourage, actually.
These look like actual thoughts
ash4fun: Aelin:I am not going to townread someone off of useless drabble. SDA refusing to actually contribute to the games he plays in is NAI. I havenāt seen anything particularly indicative out of him either thusfar. Once I am given something AI, I will start to read him.
Last two sentences are okay by themselves but I really donāt like them combined with the secondā¦
Gosh, that sentence again. Iām sorry. I donāt know the right word. SDA regularlyā¦ doesnāt commit to reading the OPs? Itās just escaping me and I donāt know why.
rereading this makes a lot more sense in context
TBE is bullying me
Being serious, though, I donāt like how ash entirely ignored me asking him why Iām one of his greatest scumreads.
I like this thought, also I def never explained this. I did a 3v3 when I had 2 people below null. So that little sentence issue (which you have cleared up for me now) made a good 3rd
No more quotey, but I think the rest of this iso looks alright.
Townlean - lotta good stuff near the beginning, nothing to change it later. They donāt have the same issues as with homestuck.
ehhh, Iām not gonna quote posts unless itās a shorter iso
Townread - I can see their thought process on just about everything, and they feel the same as joat^2
So Iām just gonna sheep vulgardās read here about what chloeās looking for:
joat^2
I suppose I should broaden my view and look at players outside of Leafia.
The Katze/Sulit exchange makes me think that they are not a scum team, because the exchange is just too weird to start out like that if that makes sense? I donāt see them planning that out like that. I would like more of an explanation on Sulitās part of the townread if that was legit.
I dislike the idea of Wolf/Wolf reads this early. I think we should be focusing on indivudual levels of wolfiness, at least until we have votes, and other mechanics to work with.
I also believe āif that makes sense?ā is an interesting phrase to use alongside a Wolf/Wolf read, as it implies they cannot explain it fully.So far I am a pretty big fan of sulitās tone in thread. She seems to have this almost concealed confidence about her. On first glance, it seems like sheās just having fun in thread, but in a few of her posts, I see a subtle side come out that I think is a really good look!
Reading through this large post, I find myself agreeing with CatLover. I would love if someone with knowledge of Sulitās meta would chime in and tell us if her opener is anything of value.
Not sure what my take is on Sulit and Catlover is right now, but Iāll have my eye on both of them. Could they both be groupscum? Possibly. Could they both be town? Also possible.
What is this post actually trying to accomplish? āCould they both be groupscum? Possibly. Could they both be town? Also possible.ā. What does that actually say about our alignments? How does a post like this help to advance the gamestate?
Unless this is some sort of read where you think sulit and I are aligned, I see no reason for this post to exist.
CatLover had the same thoughts as I at this moment. They beat me to the punch. I quite like this player so far as we have very similar takes on the game.
I have to return to work now, as my lunch break is over.
town chloe actually reaches conclusions on at least a few peopleās alignments early
which is natural if you want to actually solve
she also finds villagers Chloe: TheBlueElixir:Made(mostly) before i got my classcard. I know like half of the people in this game are only putting in half effort but I wanna win this one.
Nobody is going to read this, minus like
three people N.1:Thank you all once again, and letās have some fun.
same as above
Vulgard:senpai
wolf
TheBlueElixir:
just keep postingare you sandbagging this game?
gross post
Vulgard:what the actual fuck i have just been bled
dont ignore vul just because he claimed bled, thanks
not gunna have mechanics fuck up this game
N.1:Vulgard >rand V
heās incredibly popular on all fronts, even on the front of being bled, heās less likely than others i know to attempt gigamind reaction tests extremely early, and well he could be the other wolf faction because multiball, but eh.
This is really gross
Its so early, why are we doing this so early N.1:he could be the other wolf faction
Also this is weird
Why not say āVul could still be a wolf hereā rather than āthe other wolf factionā
You donāt think the bleed came from town ever ? Leafia:Reading someone town because they got bled is literally the wolfiest play Iāve ever seen on this site. Are you a wolf N.1?
First post is a read and a vote
I donāt like it. TheBlueElixir:/vote chloe
post
bro leave me alone im eating a donut
A. Shit is going too fast for me. Can people stop posting one-liners, please
B. Iām eating breakfast and have the mental capacity of my sister atm, so dont expect any refined thoughts. thanks/vote Leafia
Chloe: Vulgard:/vote Chloe
this is not omgus
how could it be omgus if i wasnt pushing you
nerd Italy:vulgard getting bled is certainly
either fake or thereās a scum that vul has a godread on
I actually think i might have an aneurysm if this entire SoD becomes talk about Vulās bleed
There is zero point speculating on it imo
Bleeds are delayed deaths, and it isnt even guaranteed that Vul is bledNot only do we give scum the chaos they want from discussing mechanics, but its also slightly pre-flippy territory anytime we make a read based around a bleed
I just think its dumb
Vul can make reads regarding his bleed since he has TMI that its real (if it is), but I donāt think theres much reason for any of us to
Just clogs shit Leafia:Not sure why youāre voting me here. Iād like to hear your thought process. If itās because my first post was a read and a vote, then why are you doing the same thing?
Leafia:Iād also like to hear your reasoning for voting Chloe please.
Leafia:That actually makes a lot of sense. Letās see where a Chloe wagon takes us. /vote Chloe
Ngl i voted you just to see how you would react
I didnāt really care about your first post, I just find it easier to gauge your alignment after a little oomphAlso this reaction is weird as fuck, but its getting into meta-read territory, which I donāt want to do a lot
Something feels off - your sheep vote rather than straight-up OMGUS isā¦ not what Iād expect from you
Iām keeping an eye on you Vulgard:the longer version is that her first post is a bunch of questions and questioning people posting early reads as if itās always a wolfy thing to do
Excuse you
Chloe:tencharacters
this was my first post ):<
clonedcheese:wolves wouldnāt buddy buddy like this 10 mins into game
W/W (or the opposite) reads early on are stupid. I donāt think this is AI of you, I just think its stupid.
Leafia:What the heck are you trying to do? Get serious and stop with these theatrics if youāre town.
Leafia:What youāre doing now is ww. I can only think that it has to be an RT, because no wolf in their right mind would be acting the way that youāre acting right now. Sadly, I think this kind of behavior of yours likely comes from a v doing an RT.
These posts look weird as fuck and I almost want to call them TMI, but its hella early for that
I think its odd that she immediately goes the āvillager doing an RTā route
Same feeling as when she asked for Vulās reason for voting me, rather than voting me herselfA lot of this is meta
Iām gunna try to shut up on the meta now Leafia:Seriously? Everyone, get your votes off me now! If I was a wolf, donāt you think I wouldāve OMGUSED at least once by now!?! Iāll be expecting an apology from every villager pushing me right now post game. Weāre literally less than an hour into the game! You canāt form accurate reads this fast! Now stop it!
Oh fuck self-meta already
Did i already find a wolfthis chloe does not find villagers
this chloeās thoughts also seem to focus on wolfy actions rather than wolfy players if that makes sense Chloe: Centuries:godspeed d1 reads
I donāt like this post lmao
Creating a naked readslist because you were given very slight pressure toReadslists are fluff unless they have reasonings behind every placement
So give your reasonings, or Iām considering this a waste of a post EliThePsycho:itās basically OMGUS from what iāve seen so far
Which parts ping you as OMGUS?
It seems like you hopped on the Leafia train just because other people were focusing on her Frostwolf103:Totally not pocketing you or anything
Jokey self-awareness. Dislike the feeling I get from this.
sheās selectively pointing out wolfy stuff about player after player all the time
Chloe:Soulshade feels genuine. Theyāre actively explaining why what Leafia is doing is scummy rather than just sheepinā. I like.
What i donāt like is all the one-liners.
and when there is a townread itās either not very developed or expressed with doubt
Scumread - Not making townreads the way they do as town. (also me = )
whoop already did this one:
Intensify:Hmm a bleed right now I quite odd.
language here feels kinda hedgy
Intensify:Right anyways
Back on topic.I wanna discuss this bleed of Vullyāsā¦
I donāt believe it at all Intensify:Excatly, who the hell bleeds someone 10 minutes in so wastefully anyways? Bleeds are very important here and I really donāt believe scum are dumb enough to waste a bleed 10 minutes in.
Intensify:Hmm
I still find the bleed quite odd tbh Intensify:Hmm
Yeh I donāt trust Vully at all. Intensify:This bleed is so odd, and Vully is voting me because I donāt trust it I think, seems suspicious to me.
I wasnāt even reading Vul as wolf, I just thought the bleed was fake.
/vote Vully
This progression just sucks, it looks like they found something that was plausibly pushable, and just decided to call it scum.
like, even that last post alone theyāre like, āIām not actually reading this wolf, I just want to vote itā Intensify:The bleed is completely NAI yes, but the way Vully reacted to me not believing the bleed claim is odd
This feels like a pivot. started with bad reason, found better reason, ditched old reason.
Intensify:I believe Leafia is town, people are scumleaning them too easily for making posts that I think townleafia would make
This post is better, idk if W!intensify TRās LHF like this.
Intensify:Ok on second thought, I was finding Leafia to be not so susp, but then nowā¦ uhhh theyāre kinda making themselves seem susp
Intensify: Leafia:I donāt know if youāre trying to pocket me or what but thanks either way.
Leafia question for you, why did you think me, out of the people would attempt to pocket you?
ā¦they take it back, I take back what I said above
Intensify:Ok so using DGADT, though not the latest town game I have been in, mind if you explain the differences here? Do you feel like Iām asking too many questions? Also āoffering commentary.ā No, thatās just me expressing my opinions on the current subjects, I donāt need to make reads ASAP every game.
So that was a gut-meta read, like āthis feels differentā. idk if I can put that any clearer. As for commentary vs. reads, ig thatās words for āreads seem to lack thought process and convictionā
Intensify: EliThePsycho: Intensify:Ok on second thought, I was finding Leafia to be not so susp, but then nowā¦ uhhh theyāre kinda making themselves seem susp
i just think itās strange they donāt believe the bleed.
Alright Iāll explain all my reasoning to you, I will assume you missed them
The bleed came in like 10 minutes when this SFOL started. Thereās a lot of questionable things about that. Bleeds are useful, and have major impact I believe, so why waste it 10 minutes in? Also another thing, bleeding early is not smart as you donāt know what could happen later on, you lose your ability to bleed when a situation that demands a bleed arrives later and you can confirm healers, which is something you donāt want to do. The way that Vully reacts to me not believing also was strange as well
I mean, theyāre defending their position, which is better than going back on it imo.
Intensify:ALRIGHT ALRIGHT.
Fun fun, GG scum.
Due to some things . I would like to annouce that I was bled. However, I was not bled right now, I was bled before all of this, like around the time I said I was gonna leave.
Intensify:So yep, Iām bleeding right now, and you know what? Iām fine with dying.
Intensify:Important note about this bleed, I was bled around the time that I said I was gonna leave, so I couldnāt really react to it properly. But when I came back, I saw it and decided to keep it quiet for reasons I wonāt explain right now, but youāll find it in my logs. Anyways, I donāt care if Iām healed or not, your choice healers.
Iām kinda wierded out by them ābeing fine with dyingā, but I guess this is self-resolving now? unless theyāre a likely heal?
Intensify:If you read my response carefully
I also wanna add that bleeds confrim people and that bleeding 10 minutes in instead of half way into the day is much b etter. Bleeding someone so early when you donāt know what could happen is likeā¦ wut l ol. Also, I donāt know what the counterarguments to the bleed are e ither. So Iām gonna say that the bleed is fake unless I get really good arguments for why the bleed was caused, not gonna believe it and I guess we see if in 2 days if theyāre d ead.Look at the end of each sentenceās word carefully, and look at what the bolded letters make up
Intensify:Sethā¦ when I die in two days, my logs will explain everything about why I decided to keep quiet, for now however, just let me do my things.
So they softed their bleed. Doesnāt mean anything about the ligitimacy of the bleed, but idk if wolf thinks to do this?
Intensify:Anyways, if Vully survives night 3 and I die night 3, something is wrong here thatās all.
Intensify:Anyways, Imma start reading into the thread and making some opinions since Iām dead in 2 nights.
Their thoughts seem consistent here. If they keep up the WiM, this would be likely town. P sure wolf just lolcats here.
Thereās some other posts, and they all look moderately good.
So yeah, first 1/3 of the ISO looks terrible, but everything after that seems pretty good. At any rate theyāve claimed self-resolving so probably donāt yeet today?
Anyways I need to read more but itās getting late so thatāll probably happen tomorrow.
And because I have now lost my only scumread:
/unvote
Since then,
Centuries:Maybe the playstyle shift is too big for this to be in his scumrange
āPlaystyle shift.ā I want you to elaborate on that please.
but but Iām town this game and I was scum in that gameā¦
I-- wh-- huh?
So you I think I might scum because Iām not acting like how I did as scum in another game???
Ok sure, Iām in a PoE, which is like whatever. But your reasoningsā¦ make no sense at allā¦ unless youāre for some reason assuming I have the same playstyle as wolf and town and that this ādifferentā playstyle I have right now is scummy???
Ok letās just drop thisā¦ since clearly youāre doing some galaxy brain move on me or something.
This feels like a super townie reaction. I donāt think scum does āyou do youā this easily.
Townlean - stuff from previous iso, plus a good reaction.
ash4fun:idk leafia feels like normal leafia town here. Not that I know what normal leafia scum looks like.
nice
nice.
nice catch
Not super relevant but they seem to think Iām nice?
anyways not much solving yet except to paste a oh-so-light scumlean on leafia and intensify.
halfway through iso and they havenāt done much except call some stuff nai.
changed my mind about intensify being a scumlean
heās now a townlean, purely because his belief that vulās bleed is fake feels geniune
uhhh
wazza is the slightest scumlean ever
purely because of his townreads cuz of bleeds
tbe is townlean because uh
iād have to go back and quote posts, and i dont want to rn
if you want explanations ask
and im obviously the locktown here
This post feels better, they were forced to make reads and they did. I like that they didnāt feel like they had to justify it; I think wolf usually explains it more.
The rest of their iso looks like them being asked for reads, and making low-information reads. I hope they read more in the future but fine for now.
Nulltown - Not super driven to solve but when forced it feels like their reads are genuine.
Surge is seth
seth plays like seth
'nuff said
Null - I donāt even want to bother, I have no idea how to read him, seems in both town and scumrange. Will probably look for agenda later after some flips.
Lotta interaction, look like theyāre making reads silently, pretty null so far
iā¦actually understand
if I get this right, FYPoV
a.Chloe gets voted by vul then you
b.Chloe decides to push you instead of vul because ???
c.When asked to back up read, instead says its an RTthatsā¦not a terrible train of thought
kinda like it
though I am less prone to agree with your read on chloe, i like it
I love this post though, super villagery
around p97 three posts, two dont talk about reads so I assume you meant:
Vulgard:thin reason to clear intensify
being contrarian about mechanics isnāt difficult
heās also not reading me, heās reading into me being bled which doesnāt count as a read on mevote stays
/shrug
ok
Intensifyās mindset makes more sense being bled
currently leafia/intensify probably both V tbh
like this one too, now theyāre in solving modeā¢
ā¦aand a bunch more posts that I can see the thoughts/reasoning behind
Townread - lotsa juicy solving, I can read their process pretty easily.
That bleed could be from anyone
This post does nothing, except shut down reading. not a good start.
Iām back to comment on the leading discussion.
While it looks like Leafia is following her pregame wolf behaviour. I donāt see anyone defending her.
not sure what this does either. This feels more like a defense than a read, and they didnāt read her before. Could be TMI or buddy.
First up: Zone
Iām gonna skip all posts related to PKR unless there is some reason
ISO
Zone_Q11:I am curious. Soul scumread Leafia, but you donāt like the fact that they didnāt vote her.
Meanwhile, (I am assuming that) you are starting to not like Leafiaās reactions either.
Given these (possibly unrelated) facts, what kind of relation do you think that Soul/Leafia has between V/V, V/W, W/V, and W/W?just because you scumread someone doesnāt mean that you vote them although its D1 where all exe are purely social so he does make some sense.
Zone_Q11:The question of whether you are actually bled or not is another matter though.
I am a straight-to-the-point guy, so soft messages are less credible to me.While its true Intensify hid the bleed until later (assuming he is reliable), we could have the other scum faction who could have bled Intensify, but I suspect it could be a HoB/BD interaction.
Zone_Q11:Townreads
Zone_Q11
TheBlueElixir
Surge
Alice
Soulshade
Chloe
PsychoKang
Vulgard
ItalyNullreads
SirDerpsalot
Intensify
ash4fun
Centuries
Frostwolf103Scumreads
Leafia
WazzaLater he post an explanation: where Wazzaās readlist contradict his reads.
Now the rest just look him convincing that Leafia is scum and to people targetting him
In conclusion: hes a townlean for me. The only problem I have is his defense where he look like he just wants to be obvious town, but I wonāt use that to scumread him.
hate this.
a) just says he disagrees with reads, not actually reading the iso.
b) tacks a townlean on after showing nothing to get there.
Last post of the day: Moleās ISO
First things first, when I first looked at my random ISO to do list, I was like did Mole ever post?
Anyhow there is the ISO
Summary
wtf everything about his ISO feels like he is just an information center (maybe that is what got me thinking that Mole never posted. The only thing I can dig rn is his opinion on Leafia (I donāt know which side is he on? town leafia or wolf leafia) and him voting PK based off of meta.
Iām feeling Scumlean/Null until he post again
This oneās okay, could be fake or not idk
Anyhow back to ISOing: TBE ISO (was gonna be N.1 but I canāt form opinion around lowposters)
ISO
It took him 40-50 posts for him to make a read although this was done at SoD where he wanted people to post so I respect that.
Afterwards, TBE just did some opinion response before we move to this
TheBlueElixir:I disagree.
Im going to again reference my own play in JoAT9. I had reads(that were rather accurate), but due to me making them early in a way I dont usually do(perspective on few posts) I had a hard time explaining them.
(the next part doesnt really need the analogy but works with it)
When you have a hard time explaining your reads and they get called bad by thread(namely the Leafia read here) you dont believe in them as much; its like advertising. You keep being telling its wrong by the many, you believe in it weakerI have 0 clue if im making sense but I disagree that ash lacking confidence makes them a wolf
During this time, Ash hasnāt made any progression until now so I have no opinion on this.
TheBlueElixir:/vote Cent
heās trying to push an execute on you, just a wolf
vote him
This shows that he is still following his reads which is a good thing for a villager.
TheBlueElixir: ATNoName:That bleed could be from anyone
ATNoName:Iām back to comment on the leading discussion.
While it looks like Leafia is following her pregame wolf behaviour. I donāt see anyone defending her.
these are the only two posts I thought could be AI for a LW
the first isnt really adding much, more looking like they are(I think its IIoA) and the second seems like āthe person people think is a wolf might not be a wolfā
also hedgebut also reading king is hard and he has like no posts so Im not putting too much stock into this
How did I miss this? Anyways, I like to not go into great details for anything I say so I have 0 opinion.
and now we get to readlist
TheBlueElixir:actually
its probably best if I tried this too
top three villagers
Intensify
L1ght
Ashon second look, I realize I dont have as many solid TRs as I thought I did.
huh.top three wolves(from wolviest to not wolvy)
AT(is king though so doesnt count)
ā¦gorta?
cheese, maybe?
Aliceand those dont get much better then nullscum; I do not have the grasp on the game I thought I did
I think Cent has improved btw.Why does this feel like this was made by a wolf? Upon further inspection, the only thing I donāt like is why Alice?
In conclusion: Null and barely on the town side
Okay, super reluctant to make non-nulls.
Also Iām really not seeing that the reasons line up well with the verdicts.
Right now I donāt like Soulās jumpy nature so Iām gonna leave my vote here. Its bound to change very quickly
/vote Soul
this exists
Look, I think of Hunter because that is what it is usually called.
It is Poacher for Town this game.
Big whoop.
Love how we donāt consider the HoB equivalent.
Like, this doesnāt make any sense in context. This feels to me like a BD perspective slip
So Insanity? Gimme me reads on someone not Alice or PKR or Seth
/unvote
/vote Insanity
This wagon needs more pressure and I havenāt seen him respond to my reads question at all eventhough he post a few minutes ago
This is a terrible way to vote top wagon imo. (tho I donāt know what the vc was then). Either way, theyāre still there, and havenāt actually indicated that theyāve read the slot at all, much less read them scum.
6th random ISO: Chloe
ISO
Most of it is responses that is either NAI or IIoA and RT to people, so Iām a put a few important post.
Chloe: PokemonKidRyan:Well, one question I have would beā¦
Who is your top townread and scumread (after catching up) and why?
Another would be
Has anyone dropped or went up on your reads?Iād prefer if you read through my posts to figure out if anyone has dropped or went up in my reads lmao
But sure I can answerI dont have any mega strong townreads atm? Top Iād probably say is TBE
im gunna get asked why so
TBE feels incredibly genuine, and has unique takes - like his read on conroy, for example
Feels truly solvey and gives me good vibes
Overall I havenāt seen anything from him that pings me as wolfyDonāt really have a top scumread rn and I donāt wanna make anything up and pretend like I do
Leafia moved up because her recent posts explain her thought-process more, and she is forming her own opinions on players rather than being a sheepy sheep - and her take on me doesnāt feel faked
PK moved down a bit because of how he hopped into the Leafia wagon with no solid reasoning, just āyour reaction was badā - and hes weirdly aware of where his vote should be
I liked the explanation Chloe gives to why TBE is her top townread and her reads after the RT from Leafia and PK.
Chloe: Aelin:someone as experienced as Alice should know how to make themselves obviously town as town, right?
lmfao
alice is aliceShes simultaneously the most wolfy player in the thread, as well as the person with the towniest mindset
As any alignmentbut a lot of that is probably a result of people being afraid of her
so they just bonk her with a paranoia nullreadi want her to come back into the thread so i can interact with her in real-time
im trying to make a conscious effort to not let paranoia and/or metareads clog my judgement
so far i havent hated anything Chloe:Bonk
I donāt have a top 3 or bottom 3 unless its GTH
Chloe:TBE
Surge
Frost/Light/Italy?Wazz
ATNoName/N.1
PKGuess those are my top TRs and SRs GTH
sorry, i had to pee
You know since you argue about my 1st ISO not matching my conclusion. I could say the same with you turning a 180 on posting your top 3 SR and TR, but whatever. From the readlist, it makes sense since it came from everything she did during her first posts.
Chloe:While I donāt fully agree with this take, since its multiball and scum donāt necessarily have TMI on who is a villager, so possible whiteknighting shouldnt be a mega stronk reasoning for reads
I do agree that Insanity has had flimsy reasonings and a narrow mindsetI just re-read his ISO and yeah Iām fine with this
some share the same opinion (Insanity being voted).
Conclusion: Townlean, thereās really nothing wrong with Chloe despite not seeing highpost during FOL29
Like, they vote insanity āfor pressureā ie to get reactions/reads, and then do thisā¦
Their vote is still there and itās top wagon, and they still havenāt said anything about insanityās alignment.
Scumread - A ton of fakesolving, but absolutely no formation of reads anywhere.
I just caught up.
I was expecting the Zone stuff to happen and all is good.
I like how Cent decided to make such quick reads even if I think it was a little meh in countenance.It was a weak scumread reason on me.
I like this a bit.
Zone_Q11:As for PKRā¦ I do not plan to push him. I already quite clearly stated that I will waste this game until PKR dies, but I am most certainly trying my best to not be a deadweight like I was in ToS2399 to compensate my flaws.
Not to mention, if I were to actually push my vote on PKRā¦ then I would simply lose, as he has not talked enough at all. I believe it would be best to simply ignore my vote, and not use DR Misc as an example in the future.
I do look forward to seeing how your take on me develops this game as I believe you will not follow spite.
My one big paranoid thing is if you have a role that can destroy me whenever you want to as I would not put that past you
eh this one feels wayyy too energetic idk
little more and theyāre making reads and asking about othersā reads. Okay here
Claiming RT is kinda funny ngl. I think itās a good RT.
Also based off Sethās reactions we can be fairly sure he is actually scum.
Iād have to reread this to see if this is justified, but I like the analysis attached here. Could be agenda but doesnāt really feel like it.
ā¦and then 50 posts of explaining the f*** out of it because lolseth.
I actually have to hope Insanity will flip town because otherwise I am fairly certain I am going to be wagoned tomorrow.
All I can ask is any, literally any investigates to check me out if you think I am in danger of being wagoned.
I do not care if you track me, princess (Equivalent) me, sheriff or paladin (Equivalent) me or whatnot.Just do not let me die to thisā¦ guy.
Wait why do people think PKR has to be W/W with insanity??? I havenāt seen anythinkg to support thatā¦
Townlean - lotta stuff here is individually townie, looking pretty good to me so far.
Iāll start by saying I donāt know how to read this, but here goes.
Theyāre making reads, and they can back them up. idk what but something feels a little off tho
Whysper:I like the way Wazza reasons.
I feel appreciated but I have no clue what to do with this power.
Vote who you want, I already stated I donāt realy want to influence the gamethread, but currently Iām fine with a few lynches.
This is either really towny, or really performative, not sure which.
Whathaveidone2:
Voted Voters Votes TheBlueElixir Moleland 1/14 Vulgard Intensify 1/14 Leafia Chloe, Soulshade55r, Italy, PsychoKang 4/14 Chloe Vulgard, Leafia, Surge, Alice, SirDerpsalot 5/14 PokemonKidRyan Zone_Q11 1/14 ATNoName clonedcheese 1/14 SirDerpsALot Frostwolf103 1/14 Intensify ash4fun 1/14 Whysper Centuries 1/14 Centuries TheBlueElixir 1/14 We need to sort out these wagons, the sheer amount of them is purely unreasonable.
@Moleland - Do you have a good enough reason to be pushing on TBE and causing a wagon of a single player, yourself? If so, please state the reason because I havenāt been able to notice a good enough one.
@Intensify - Your read is dignified and noted and I can perfectly understand where youāre coming from with it tbh, but I townread Vulgard so Iām adding you into this anyway. Is there a good enough reason to be voting this early on, specifically on a wagon that more than likely, wonāt get lynched?
@Zone_Q11 - Do you have to spitevote someone and cause yet another pointless wagon that wonāt gain relevance unless you push on it without spiting it. You spitereading a player and voting them is literally the reason that caused PKR to get away with the murder in DR which additionally caused me to die because I let my guard down because of you.
@clonedcheese - Why are you voting the King this early on in a gamemode where insta-lynching the King isnāt really a strategy?
@Frostwolf103 - Is there a reason youāre voting SDA, granted I didnāt even see your vote so I must of skimmed over it so Iāve not seen any reasoning.
@ash4fun - Same reason as Frost, mixed with a bit of Intensifyās tbh.
@Centuries
@TheBlueElixirFinal 2 players were pinged purely for them to question their own wagons as I got nothing for them.
Frostwolf103:Since I am not familiar with the term, what does it mean?
Pointless wagons with 1 person on them that more than likely wonāt achieve impact on the game but instead annoyance towards players.
Iām pretty sure this post come from town; idk if wolf is quite that brazen about telling people what to do.
Zone_Q11:As for PKRā¦ I do not plan to push him. I already quite clearly stated that I will waste this game until PKR dies, but I am most certainly trying my best to not be a deadweight like I was in ToS2399 to compensate my flaws.
Then unvote him. These Vanity Wagons are just confusing me and making me not be able to pinpoint where to actually stick.
Also pretty sure wolf doesnāt tell people to move votes so they can read easier
Nulltown - A lot of stuff that could go either way, couple of things point a bit more to town.
super memey in the beginning, nai or slightly scum.
Anyway vulguard is Null because they just did the early town reads in a scum game but they seem to do it normally anyway
The bleed claim is just whatever at this point
first read null readā¦ ehhhhhhHHHHHhhhhh
Honestly I do think Leafia could just be LHF but Iām not going to use that as a excuse to just leave them alone all game
this could easily be agenda
Also you saw nothing
oop did not mean to release that yet XD
that is
a lot of work youāre doing
ahem
Why are reads on chleb being based on joat 2 when they were playing on an alt that game?
Not super relevant but they seem to think Iām nice?
pocket 100
anyway, I like ash
did I mention this yet
yaeh I did and I agree with alot of them/see them as reasonable takes
ayaya
Iām excited and I donāt know why
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wondering why half the town was blanks
ash4fun
cant wait for you to read this one
wondering why half the town was blanks
its not finished
ashās post is good but
Iām not gonna lock town them on it
it is
fakeable
But I wouldnāt lynch ash today
posting reads means they are willing to contribute which I like early game
they had some very villagery posts earlier so they are tight TR for meh
if I said ābutterā would you sheep me
I like this because butter goes on my bread meaning you are willing to contribute a good lunch
hard reading you town now and Iām not just buttering you up :3
ive just realized how many people are in this game
aaaaaaa