[SFoL] SFoL 63 - Triple Threat: Virtuous - Game Over (4/26) - Blue Dragon (evils) win!

[N.1]

Low-Hanging Fruit.
A member of the town that is easily mis-jettisonable.

[ChopChop]

We can also call them Willager’s.
AKA Leafia.

[ChopChop]

Well Willager are more like Scummy as Town

[ChopChop]

So I guess a version of LHF,

[Moleland]

Perfect

[Leafia]

Your reaction with that reaction test proved to me that you’re 100% scum here. I’m not unvoting. Your reaction wasn’t in the slightest bit villagery. You know what having a red on someone is and yet you acted like you didn’t. You’re the best lynch for today. I’m convinced of that now.

@TheBlueElixir

yeah

I think surge is town

Did you even look at his reaction to PKR’s reaction test? How is that townie in the slightest? It isn’t. As town, he tends to be bad, but not this bad.

@ChopChop

Oh well then why did PKR try and get a Claim out of me?
I think both him and Insanity is Scum.

To see if you would claim something other than what you’re softing.

@ChopChop

Ok so yeah we yeet Insanity today.
They flip scum, then I Poison PKR tomorrow and no one heal him.

Nope. We yeet you here.

@PokemonKidRyan

He literally avoided claiming the entire time.
OMGUSd, LAMISTd, Shade Threw.

Also his reactions were like “You are lying because you would have a precise result” NOT “You are lying because I am not scum”

This is truth.

Actually, let’s not yeet Seth. I’ll deal with him tonight.

@ChopChop

Well yeah. It doesn’t benefit Town for Town to Hard Claim.
In what way does that benefit town?
It doesn’t.
Now give me your claim.

You literally just said claiming doesn’t benefit town and now you want PKR to claim? Seriously?

@Insanity

I kinda want to just believe that Seth is just TWTBAW.

Me too at this point. It’s frusterating.

@ChopChop

@PokemonKidRyan

Seth, just please, stop interacting with me.

We get it, you missed a very obvious reaction test and you are mad at yourself.
Going at me like this is not improving anything for anyone.

I didn’t miss shit and I’m more mad at you if your scum here.
But I’m going to hope your scum and sure we can stop interacting and once Insanity flips Scum I’m poisoning you the next day.
Sound Good?

Yes you did miss the RT and if you’re actually town, please stop preflipping like that and stop assuming people must be scum. It is litewrally counterproductive. I know that from experience.

@ChopChop

Yes. It doesn’t look like your RT came from a Town PoV.

It did look like it came from a town Pov. He was trying to figure out your slot.

Also…/unvote

@ChopChop

“Any ability that states you learn their alignment will return a precise faction.”

1: It was an RT. Not a real redcheck.
2: Just because someone doesn’t reveal what faction they redchecked you as doesn’t mean they didn’t get a real result.

@PokemonKidRyan

Seth, I will say this.
If you cause me to claim, people are going to be LIVID at you.

Too late for me at least. I’m already livid at Seth.

@PokemonKidRyan

I actually have to hope Insanity will flip town because otherwise I am fairly certain I am going to be wagoned tomorrow.

All I can ask is any, literally any investigates to check me out if you think I am in danger of being wagoned.
I do not care if you track me, princess (Equivalent) me, sheriff or paladin (Equivalent) me or whatnot.

Just do not let me die to this… guy.

For what it’s worth, you’re a slight townlean for me and I have no idea why Seth is pairing you with Insanity.

Not sure I like how Insanity’s wagon is picking up steam with almost no resistance. PKR seems the only one even slightly against it. I’ll have to keep my eye on Insanity, but it could be that he’s just LHF.

@an_gorta_pratai

@Zone_Q11

At worst, Surge would get converted during N2 anyway.

Who would do that? I wouldn’t convert Seth ever

If I was scum and had converting powers, Seth would be high on my list to convert actually, because he’s being townread for acting scummy because it’s in his town meta. Although I’d probably convert Alice before him.[quote=“Vulgard, post:1893, topic:83266, full:true”]
joat^2

@Elephas

I suppose I should broaden my view and look at players outside of Leafia.

@Flameo

The Katze/Sulit exchange makes me think that they are not a scum team, because the exchange is just too weird to start out like that if that makes sense? I don’t see them planning that out like that. I would like more of an explanation on Sulit’s part of the townread if that was legit.

I dislike the idea of Wolf/Wolf reads this early. I think we should be focusing on indivudual levels of wolfiness, at least until we have votes, and other mechanics to work with.
I also believe “if that makes sense?” is an interesting phrase to use alongside a Wolf/Wolf read, as it implies they cannot explain it fully.

@CatLover

So far I am a pretty big fan of sulit’s tone in thread. She seems to have this almost concealed confidence about her. On first glance, it seems like she’s just having fun in thread, but in a few of her posts, I see a subtle side come out that I think is a really good look!

Reading through this large post, I find myself agreeing with CatLover. I would love if someone with knowledge of Sulit’s meta would chime in and tell us if her opener is anything of value.

@Leafia

Not sure what my take is on Sulit and Catlover is right now, but I’ll have my eye on both of them. Could they both be groupscum? Possibly. Could they both be town? Also possible.

@CatLover

What is this post actually trying to accomplish? “Could they both be groupscum? Possibly. Could they both be town? Also possible.”. What does that actually say about our alignments? How does a post like this help to advance the gamestate?

Unless this is some sort of read where you think sulit and I are aligned, I see no reason for this post to exist.

CatLover had the same thoughts as I at this moment. They beat me to the punch. I quite like this player so far as we have very similar takes on the game.

I have to return to work now, as my lunch break is over.

town chloe actually reaches conclusions on at least a few people’s alignments early
which is natural if you want to actually solve
she also finds villagers

[quote=“Chloe, post:121, topic:83266”]

@TheBlueElixir

Made(mostly) before i got my classcard. I know like half of the people in this game are only putting in half effort but I wanna win this one.
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Nobody is going to read this, minus like
three people

@N.1

Thank you all once again, and let’s have some fun.

same as above

@Vulgard

senpai

wolf

@TheBlueElixir

just keep posting

are you sandbagging this game?

gross post

@Vulgard

what the actual fuck i have just been bled

dont ignore vul just because he claimed bled, thanks

not gunna have mechanics fuck up this game

@N.1

Vulgard >rand V

he’s incredibly popular on all fronts, even on the front of being bled, he’s less likely than others i know to attempt gigamind reaction tests extremely early, and well he could be the other wolf faction because multiball, but eh.

This is really gross
Its so early, why are we doing this so early

@N.1

he could be the other wolf faction

Also this is weird
Why not say “Vul could still be a wolf here” rather than “the other wolf faction”
You don’t think the bleed came from town ever ?

@Leafia

Reading someone town because they got bled is literally the wolfiest play I’ve ever seen on this site. Are you a wolf N.1?

First post is a read and a vote
I don’t like it.

@TheBlueElixir

/vote chloe

post

bro leave me alone im eating a donut

A. Shit is going too fast for me. Can people stop posting one-liners, please
B. I’m eating breakfast and have the mental capacity of my sister atm, so dont expect any refined thoughts. thanks

/vote Leafia

[quote=“Chloe, post:245, topic:83266”]

@Vulgard

/vote Chloe

this is not omgus
[/quote]

how could it be omgus if i wasnt pushing you
nerd

@Italy

vulgard getting bled is certainly

either fake or there’s a scum that vul has a godread on

I actually think i might have an aneurysm if this entire SoD becomes talk about Vul’s bleed
There is zero point speculating on it imo
Bleeds are delayed deaths, and it isnt even guaranteed that Vul is bled

Not only do we give scum the chaos they want from discussing mechanics, but its also slightly pre-flippy territory anytime we make a read based around a bleed

I just think its dumb
Vul can make reads regarding his bleed since he has TMI that its real (if it is), but I don’t think theres much reason for any of us to
Just clogs shit

@Leafia

Not sure why you’re voting me here. I’d like to hear your thought process. If it’s because my first post was a read and a vote, then why are you doing the same thing?

@Leafia

I’d also like to hear your reasoning for voting Chloe please.

@Leafia

That actually makes a lot of sense. Let’s see where a Chloe wagon takes us. /vote Chloe

Ngl i voted you just to see how you would react
I didn’t really care about your first post, I just find it easier to gauge your alignment after a little oomph

Also this reaction is weird as fuck, but its getting into meta-read territory, which I don’t want to do a lot
Something feels off - your sheep vote rather than straight-up OMGUS is… not what I’d expect from you
I’m keeping an eye on you

@Vulgard

the longer version is that her first post is a bunch of questions and questioning people posting early reads as if it’s always a wolfy thing to do

Excuse you

@Chloe

tencharacters

this was my first post ):<

@clonedcheese

wolves wouldn’t buddy buddy like this 10 mins into game

W/W (or the opposite) reads early on are stupid. I don’t think this is AI of you, I just think its stupid.

@Leafia

What the heck are you trying to do? Get serious and stop with these theatrics if you’re town.

@Leafia

What you’re doing now is ww. I can only think that it has to be an RT, because no wolf in their right mind would be acting the way that you’re acting right now. Sadly, I think this kind of behavior of yours likely comes from a v doing an RT.

These posts look weird as fuck and I almost want to call them TMI, but its hella early for that
I think its odd that she immediately goes the “villager doing an RT” route
Same feeling as when she asked for Vul’s reason for voting me, rather than voting me herself

A lot of this is meta
I’m gunna try to shut up on the meta now

@Leafia

Seriously? Everyone, get your votes off me now! If I was a wolf, don’t you think I would’ve OMGUSED at least once by now!?! I’ll be expecting an apology from every villager pushing me right now post game. We’re literally less than an hour into the game! You can’t form accurate reads this fast! Now stop it!

Oh fuck self-meta already
Did i already find a wolf

this chloe does not find villagers
this chloe’s thoughts also seem to focus on wolfy actions rather than wolfy players if that makes sense

@Chloe

@Centuries

godspeed d1 reads
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I don’t like this post lmao
Creating a naked readslist because you were given very slight pressure to

Readslists are fluff unless they have reasonings behind every placement
So give your reasonings, or I’m considering this a waste of a post

@EliThePsycho

it’s basically OMGUS from what i’ve seen so far

Which parts ping you as OMGUS?
It seems like you hopped on the Leafia train just because other people were focusing on her

@Frostwolf103

Totally not pocketing you or anything

Jokey self-awareness. Dislike the feeling I get from this.

she’s selectively pointing out wolfy stuff about player after player all the time

@Chloe

Soulshade feels genuine. They’re actively explaining why what Leafia is doing is scummy rather than just sheepin’. I like.

What i don’t like is all the one-liners.

and when there is a townread it’s either not very developed or expressed with doubt

This is certainly food for thought.

@EliThePsycho

yes but my memory is horrible

I have that same problem at times.

@Moleland

Town was lucky Callmelo had no kill ability in Joat2. Jeeze

Agreed. Scum would’ve won if Io had a killing ability that game. Seth should never be trusted with the ability to kill if he’s town.

Finally got caught up and I want to see more from Magnus. I literally forgot he was even in the game until someone mentioned him. /vote Magnus @Amelia

[anon6348071]

Current VC

Voted	Voters	Votes
Vulgard	SirDerpsALot	1/14
Leafia	Soulshade55r, Italy, PsychoKang	3/14
Sulit	Vulgard	1/14
PokemonKidRyan	Zone_Q11	1/14
an_gorta_pratai	Centuries	1/14
PsychoKang	Moleland	1/14
Alice	Insanity, PokemonKidRyan	2/14
Magnus	Light, Leafia	2/14
Surge	Wazza	1/14
Insanity	Alice, Chloe, Surge, ATNoName, Frostwolf103, Whysper	6/14
Soulshade55r	N.1	1/14
clonedcheese	TheBlueElixir	1/14

[Moleland]

@anon6348071

|Insanity|Alice, Chloe, Surge, ATNoName, Frostwolf103, Whysper

I feel like there’s scum on this wagon

[N.1]

i would agree with that assessment

[Intensify]

I thought Alice said that Magnus was a person who should be read off mechanics, why are we trying to pressure vote him here?

[Leafia]

I find that to be pretty likely to be honest.

[Moleland]

@sulit do you support your slots vote of Insanity?

[Leafia]

Because he’s not even contributing at all. We want him to contribute to the game.

[EliThePsycho]

can somebody remind me why we’re voting insanity
i completely missed it

[Moleland]

Can you actually Iso him yourself and actually Give me a reason to townread you? Ok, thanks

[EliThePsycho]

ok

[Intensify]

He misread Alice’s readlist so badly and pushed her due to this bad misread of Alice’s readlist. Upon telling him of his mistake, he went and thought about his life choices. Alice felt like this was faked and very scummy I believe.

[Leafia]

Time for supper for me.

[TheBlueElixir]

welp. What do we have, just over 18 hours, with no concsensus wolves overlooking insanity?

we have at least 6 wolves why cant I find em

skimmed through SDA

is p UTR but I think he’s making reads and pushing em

@Leafia

Did you even look at his reaction to PKR’s reaction test? How is that townie in the slightest? It isn’t. As town, he tends to be bad, but not this bad.

because everything he did he kept his role is mind

getting people to unvote for his passive
bleeding someone had some reason to it
he didnt immediately call his accuser wolf despite an unframable red

@Leafia
we will talk more tonight.

@Moleland

I feel like there’s scum on this wagon

who do you think it is

[sulit]

chleb had em at scumread and said she’s sheeping alice’s read on em

I have no personal opinion on the vote but

alice p smart

so

makes sense