SFoL62 - Regal Lions - Cult and Oneiromancer Victory!

[anon6348071]

@TheBlueElixir

or king was healed(no logs…)

I really doubt that anyone even considered healing Seth last night.
For several reasons.

[Emilia]

no

[Emilia]

esp considering that I just posted my readlist

[TheBlueElixir]

@anon6348071

Doesn’t change the fact that most of his posts on D2 were replies to me – and I still find it weird.

due to thread title im not going to activity read

this is the last time im bringing that up

@anon6348071

Pretty sure Eighty uses her/she pronouns.
Also most of her focus wasn’t really on me, like those posts:

whoops

@anon6348071

Were direct replies to me.
Others read more like skepticism/wariness instead of “testing the waters”, but that’s the impression I got from interacting with her.

@EightySecond

Their defense of me is interesting, but I think mostly NAI as they seem fairly objective throughout.

@EightySecond

I’m getting ready to sleep, so I don’t have time to dig through your ISO.

Have you explained why gorta is so high on your readlist yet?

@EightySecond

Meta and towntells aren’t exactly what I was hoping to hear, but I’ll keep that in mind I suppose!

I feel like that slot has gone very under the radar, which is a bit concerning.

these seem like their trying to find out your slot but never take a stance

[Wazza]

Well considering I’m asking for their targets, I clearly know something about who they targeted.

/vote Emilia

[Chloe]

Seth EK vs this game

Postcount Comparisons

In SFoL 61, Seth was an Evil King.
Postcount by EoD2 = 118

In Insurgency, Seth was groupscum
Postcount by Mid-D2 (his death) = 263

In WoW:BfA, Seth was groupscum
Postcount by EoD2 = 216

In NUF, Seth was town
Postcount by EoD2 = 256

In FoL28, Seth was town
Postcount by EoD2 = 117

In ToS2, Seth was town
Postcount by EoD2 = 407

In DGADT, Seth was town
Postcount by EoD2 = 429

In Hell in a Cell, Seth was town
Postcount by EoD2 = 151

In RMIV, Seth was town
Postcount by EoD2 = 65

Scum Average = 199
Town Average = 272
(No significant outliers)

This game
Postcount by EoD2 = 129

Conclusion: There isn’t enough data to determine if postcount is alignment-indicative. Towngames are not consistent enough to compare to scumgames.

Time to focus on the content of these posts.

Keep in mind there is no GK game to compare to, and groupscum games are not a fair comparison, as EK doesn’t have TMI - so this isn’t solid evidence of alignment.

Content Comparisons

@ChopChop

@Arete

hi Mode

do you think it’s a BD game or an Unseen game?

No clue.

@ChopChop

@Napoleon

@ChopChop

Do you think it’s a Blue Dragon or an Unseen game?

How am I suppose to know?
Would you like me to guess?

@ChopChop

@Chloe

Seth what scum faction do you think rolled

Hmm.
I’ll go with Unseen.
What’s your guess?

Distinct difference in answers. I’m unsure how to determine alignment based on these answers, but I would love some insight from others.

@ChopChop

I believe everyone deserves a chance to be my fellow followers and join me in the King’s Throne Room Tonight!
So I’m thinking of 2 numbers between 1-50 the first 2 to guess the different numbers of the 2 numbers I’m thinking of may join me in my chat!

Weirdass performative post.

@ChopChop

I’m thinking Alice and TBE.

Mentions Allies quite a few times, including asking players to guess a number. Never mentioned allies d1 in SFoL62

@ChopChop

Good Content Post!

@ChopChop

Has Good Readslist!

@ChopChop

Honesty!

@ChopChop

Another Good Post

TBE is Town Read!

@ChopChop

But do we know who the Town Core will be?

@ChopChop

If I remember correctly, TBE had the same thought about Derps.

@ChopChop

Alice being Alice

@ChopChop

Alice brings up meta.

You know I’ll give this one slight town.

@ChopChop

I’ll be honest. I like UT and Gorta so far.

@ChopChop

I’m thinking of making UT my Town Clear Guy I can rely on.

@ChopChop

I like Jane.

@ChopChop

I’m leaning Cent and PKR scum.

In SFoL61, Seth backs up every read with analysis on posts, whereas in SFoL61 he just posts his thoughts without reasoning.

@ChopChop

Oh my god, let me make this clear.
My Playstyle changed so my wolf meta is also different as well as my Town Meta. Also are you referring to an ongoing game when your mentioning this because if you are like I think you are please take in note that it isn’t allowed.

@ChopChop

Has it ever occurred to you that I haven’t been doing much because I’m in multiple other games on other sites plus IRL stuff.

I admit I haven’t been hard pushing people.

However what I do want to say is Arete is a very difficult player to read and thus we need to take a different approach towards them.

/Vote Arete
Let’s start with Pressure.

Self-aware in SFoL61, commenting on playstyle changes & reasoning for lack of activity. No mention of these in SFoL62.

@ChopChop

I also have a 1-Shot Trail but I don’t feel a need to use it until I’m dead confident someone is scum and I want to push it because I feel like it may not end up being the lynch and I want it the lynch.

@ChopChop

I’m going to let the execution today lay in the hands of 4 others.
Unless there isn’t an execution today.

@ChopChop

So it needs to be all 4 deciding?
Ok then I need to be very confident in who I choose.
There is only 2 GS but will be another by tomorrow.

Similar thought-process on trials. However, on d2 in SFoL61, Seth votes players for pressure, and decides to save his trial. In 62, he doesn’t vote, and immediately uses trial. Still hasnt voted

@ChopChop

————
UnknownTraveller
Jane
Chloe
Gorta
Apprentice
PKR
mathmods
Highway
Anstreim
Blizer
Arete
Wazza
Psycho
Magnus
CRichard
EightySeconds
Centuries
———

W

@ChopChop

————
UnknownTraveller
Jane
PKR
Highway
Emila (because of Apprentice)
Arete
Chloe
Gorta
Anstreim
CRichard
Blizer
Magnus
TBE (Based upon previous slot)
Wazza
Psycho
EightySeconds
Centuries
———

Seth doesn’t post a single readslist in SFoL61. Posts multiple in SFoL62. Also provides no reasonings, just placements. Seems overly concerned with providing reasonings in SFoL61.

@ChopChop

Should have used your Day ability M8.

@ChopChop

The Gale Beast one

@ChopChop

Don’t use that other day Ability

@ChopChop

It’s a no no

@ChopChop

I mean if someone wants to poison me I’m not going to blame them.
But they won’t like the outcome of what could have been if they didn’t poison me.

@ChopChop

If they poison me they will have a bad outcome overall in the game state.

If they don’t poison me the game state will have faster solves by me during the night and eventually I’ll just find all the town and narrow down the scum.
Or find the scum via night chat.

“Fine” with being poisoned in SFoL61, likely in an attempt to look more towny. Is actively against a poison in SFoL62.

I’m running short on time, so I’m wrapping this up. I actually think Seth was more active in SFoL61 in comparison to here. In 61 he seems focused on appearing townie, whereas he just… doesn’t give a shit in the current game.

I’m pretty sure Seth is just a terrible GK.

[TheBlueElixir]

I do believe ive said something to that effect before with eighty

they said it was personality

but im not waving it away with the context of what scum probably thought

[Chloe]

I went kinda for speed on this
and might have missed posts

(like i didnt see seth talk about allies d1 in this game)

lemme know if you remember mentions of that or whatever

[Emilia]

explain

[anon6348071]

@EightySecond

Their defense of me is interesting, but I think mostly NAI as they seem fairly objective throughout.

Still not sure as to why she thought I was defending her back then since I said I found it curious that she didn’t refute Jane’s points, but yeah.
I guess I could see a world where one would think this is some kind of hedge?

@EightySecond

I’m getting ready to sleep, so I don’t have time to dig through your ISO.

Have you explained why gorta is so high on your readlist yet?

This is just a plain question about my read.

@EightySecond

Meta and towntells aren’t exactly what I was hoping to hear, but I’ll keep that in mind I suppose!

This reads more like they expected me to provide more points as to why I think Gorta is towny, not “not taking a stance”.

[Wazza]

I’m not explaining since you refused to cooperate.

[Emilia]

you are refusing to cooperate

[TheBlueElixir]

I didnt see a conclusion after questioning you

I think scum would do that, to find which unconvertable you are

I can see town doing that too

thats why the whole thing wasnt very useful

[Wazza]

You’re the one who refused to state who you targeted N1 and N2.

[EightySecond]

@TheBlueElixir

these seem like their trying to find out your slot but never take a stance

@EightySecond

t seemed like Anstreim was curious on my conclusion on them as a result of our interaction earlier, when I initially thought they were a WW veteran I was pretty sure they were wolfing, but the more I kept probing them, their responses seemed respectably villagery.

@EightySecond

Newbtown.

I’ve already made my stance on Anstreim, I didn’t feel like I needed to make a big show on it.

Haven’t felt the need to reevaluate this read yet as we’ve only had one flip and Anstreim has still felt fairly townie. Plus the whole PK situation makes it sound like Anstreim is very unlikely to be Cult/Unseen, in which case the worst he can be is the NK?

Not too concerned with him being NK as of right now, since NK still need wolves out. I also just don’t think he’s NK, but I’m not going to pretend I’m some expert NK hunter.

[Emilia]

yea I need to know why

[Wazza]

Because I know something about your targets.

Now can you state?

[Emilia]

considering me outing it would give out much info for no reason

no

[TheBlueElixir]

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrg

[anon6348071]

I see no reason to out Emilia’s targets.
You say you have information on her/Centuries, and that it might potentially be a redcheck.
Keyword being “potentially”.

Is narrowing down Executioner PoE even by asking for their N1/N2 actions worth it? Do you have anything on them other than mech?