ToS Mafia - Dead Chat

[SirDerpsAlot]

I didn’t realise lol

[darth_tabor]

Ok wait let’s get all of the PR claims out here and do some deducing lmao

PR Spots

Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Random Town - darth_tabor (escort)
Random Town - marshal/N.1 (medium)
Random Town

Claims

darth_tabor - Escort (TS) confirmed
marshal/N.1 - Medium (TS) confirmed
Arete - Sheriff (TI)
sulit - Doctor (TP)
Squid - Veteran (TK)
eevee - ??? (can’t remember)
clonedcheese - Escort

Alright imma quote and edit this as we deduce
Am I missing anyone?

[bepwei]

I am pretty sure jake is town. Read his iso makes him look very different than like cop 13

[bepwei]

I wasn’t lying about my night results

[SirDerpsAlot]

What were your night results

[darth_tabor]

@Possessed

The list of potential second visitors:

Sulit (Most likely unless lying about role)
Wazza
Universal
Bepwei
ClonedCheese
jmw

@Possessed

1. Bepwei - Scumread them early for lacking content in posts.
2. ClonedCheese - Could have seen the opportunity to take advantage and kill Derps to implicate Arete.
3. Arete - While obvious, Arete could have taken the easy kill and disregarded the implication.
4. Wazza - Though TR, there is still a possibility this is Derps killer.
5. jmw - Heavily townread and I just don’t see this slot flipping Mafia killer class.
6. Sulit - HCed Town Doctor, which would mean if they visited Derps…Derps should be alive.

Wait so this means that its NOT Sulit.

This is the stuff from between marshal’s mech info claim and Arete showing up. Some notes on Possessed actions during that time:

• Possessed unsure, trying to find holes, “let’s wait for Arete”
• Possessed joke abt Poss/Arete/Italy scum team (mirrors katze scum chat jokes)
• Keeps making other possibilities besides Arete to try and “game solve”

@Arete

Hi I just woke up

I tried to target Diggity/Isaac last night because he was completely null to me, I got that I was witched and that my target was NS

I’m not sure if Witch would show visiting both targets or just the person they control, if it’s the first thing then Marshal has to be fake (or RTing) or else Jgoes moderrored (because me + Witch + person who actually killed Derps makes 3)

This explanation seems pretty long winded for someone who is not the killing role (i.e. if scum member knows they didn’t do the kill then it’s pretty clear this is a reaction test), so we can safely assume Arete is mafioso or another role that was assigned the kill

[darth_tabor]

This is almost confirmed by Possessed’s reaction, as they would be concerned about the situation but have no reason to believe that marshal’s claim is an reaction test, thus they can’t just brush off marshal’s accusation and are waiting for Arete

[bepwei]

I was attacked and healed

[SirDerpsAlot]

Wait where did a third attack come from tf

[darth_tabor]

PR Spots

Town Investigative
Town Protective
Town Killing
Random Town - darth_tabor (escort)
Random Town - marshal/N.1 (medium)
Random Town

Claims

darth_tabor - Escort (TS) confirmed
marshal/N.1 - Medium (TS) confirmed
Arete - Sheriff (TI)
sulit - Doctor (TP)
Squid - Veteran (TK)
eevee - ??? (TI)
clonedcheese - Escort

Updated with eevee’s claim.
Clearly there must be a thunderdome between Arete, eevee, and clonedcheese for the TI spot and the last RT spot. Since we pretty much know Arete’s claim is bs, we can write that off, and I guess assume eevee and clonedcheese are real claims.

If we think sulit is real, that fills the last spot, if not, there is another TP out there who remains unclaimed.

[darth_tabor]

Most likely prankster since doctor would have no reason to heal Bepwei over a PR claim

[bepwei]

Eevee is town yea?

[darth_tabor]

Currently think eevee is town

Also now that I think about it, who did sulit claim they healed?

[darth_tabor]

Ok so sulit claims to have healed Possessed (within the current scumteam)
As far as I can tell they would have no reason to not heal a PR claim

Also is this a slip?

@sulit

I don’t know to be honest. It feels like they’re just trying to side mention him to provide more evidence to their defense.

It doesn’t feel the same as the way they’re treating Arete though.

Usually when I’m scum I try to side townread my scummates as gut town, but that’s usually later in the game and this doesn’t feel the same.

Thing that stands out to me is they’re more like, aware of Jake I guess. Aware of their read of them and aware of what Jake’s doing, like they feel like they have to explain it more than Arete.

That makes him more scummy imo.

[bepwei]

How is it a slip? I’m pretty bad at seeing slips tho

[darth_tabor]

They gut town Arete, Possessed, and I think katze (don’t really remember that one)

I think I remember them also gut reading Jake, but they backed off that one pretty quickly

Seems like lines are being drawn in the sand

[darth_tabor]

Also @bepwei @SirDerpsAlot any medium messages yet?

[bepwei]

Nope. It would be a PM right?

[darth_tabor]

Yea it would be in your rolecard pm

[SirDerpsAlot]

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