[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - šŸ˜¹ Pirates (Town) Win!

I think this take is something V!Leafia writes way more often than W!Leafia. I believe W!Leafia jumps to a conclusion about CatLoverā€™s alignment more readily. This feels like a natural progression into that.

Like, come on, guys. Look at these posts and tell me this isnā€™t LHF. I sense immense LHF energies.

Maybe I was wrong about calling their posts LHFy on purpose, but either way, yeah.

Early readlist with tons of nulls is admittedly :/. Why did you feel the need to post this?

This feels organic

Very villagery post.

Very towny from Wisp.

I do not understand why this wagon exists.

In my experience, people who refer to or discuss their own meta like this are usually scum

Okay, Wisp is town. The way their progression seems to work is distinctly villagery. Nothing feels fabricated or stilted, and the process isnā€™t rigid.

This.

Wazza claiming VT as one of the first things he did this game is unfortunately a villagery thing to do when you are under suspicion early.

ā€œUnfortunately townā€ is my take. Unless they are doing it on purpose. But if not, then I think they are very likely to be town.

Their posts are justā€¦ so obviously underwhelming, Iā€™ll be surprised if this flips wolf. From my experience, the obvious answer is rarely the answer.

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YES. Finally someone worded this in a way I can get behind.

Disagree about Elephas, I think their sheer volume and thought process transparent in the thread makes them >>rand V.

ā€œVulā€ might be easier for you.

Ah, I do love the classic unexplainedDerpsTakes :tm:.

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I might change my mind if they continue to be underwhelming throughout the day.

The amount of time ash has spent defending himself should be telling about his alignment, but I have no idea what conclusion to draw. Iā€™ve only played with him once and I misread him when he was town. But in that game, he spent less time defending himself and more time actively scumhunting, even though I kept voting him and pushing for him.

So, based on my experience from that one game, his obsession with defending his slot is wolfy. But Iā€™m not certain about it.

Aaaaand I am caught up. My vote is in a good place.

Because itā€™s very easy to claim to scumread someone because ā€œthey havenā€™t done enough.ā€ Effort doesnā€™t necessarily equate villageriness/wolfiness by itself. Wolves like making easy reads because they are, well, easy. Easy to fake, too. Especially earlygame, when you are settling into the thread.

Why are you asking me to tell you who you shouldā€™ve voted? Iā€™m not you, I donā€™t have the same reads as you, I donā€™t get reads the same way you do. Youā€™re the one who should know who to vote (and who should probably know better than to use that one excuse as backup for your vote).

Itā€™s going to be funny if this is an example of TMI. ā€œOh, villager, please tell me who I was supposed to vote.ā€

Agree to disagree.

I also read Mole as scum, not sure how you got the impression that I didnā€™t. I think his active shitposting while voting people for overtly wolfy things without higher-level evaluation is scummy. Itā€™s like heā€™s existing, meming, and jumping on the easiest trains. Which is how many wolves play the game of mafia.

I struggle to understand if this is a joke or not.

The fact weā€™re both townreading someone for similar reasons doesnā€™t make both of us town.

I wanna build a towncore.

sulit
Wisp
CatLover
Elephas
Centuries

Leafia?

Whoā€™s in?

The above list isnā€™t ordered.

PSA: If Ioā€™s posting doesnā€™t visibly improve before End of Day, I will probably vote there.

I started writing a response to your recent posts but Iā€™m finding myself too tired to properly give my opinions coherently. Thatā€™s not fair to anyone; so I will be re-reading these in the morning after a cup of joe.

Vulgard, I do have an unrelated question though:
Katze has stated they have a rather strong ability to read you. Does this go both ways?

I thought that was Lhf though

No. I seldom read kat correctly, though Iā€™ve progressively improved at it.
I feel like Iā€™m reading their lower effort as scummy, when itā€™s not (at least inherently).

First off: wolfy way to shade me for changing my read.
Second: while I think they entered the thread in an obviously scummy way and continued to post like that for a while (which I read as LHF), Iā€™m under the impression they should write a villagery post eventually if they are V. A common trend with these slots is that they do write something villagery, eventually. But if Io doesnā€™t, Iā€™ll be significantly more inclined to yeet them for that reason. Now that they know they are considered underwhelming, they should step it the hell up.

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Itā€™s easy as hell to read me because my wolfgame hasnā€™t had enough time to be trained and refined in comparison to my towngame.

Ok, now you explained it, it makes sense I guess.

Thank you.

With that, I will be going to sleep. Unless you have any questions for me that do not require my neurons to be sending information at a rapid pace.

I vividly remember that one slot in a game offsite where they posted in an underwhelming way, and very little too. However, they stepped it up in LyLo and were really openly nervous during every EoD, even when they were not being wagoned. It was pure. I didnā€™t see it then, but it really was pure.

Unwilling to jump on LHF easily for that reason, but Iā€™m ready to flip if they donā€™t get better.

Nah, sleep tight.

This is relevant, by the way. I wanna build a consensus and work from there.

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I get it now.

It just looked at first glance ā€œDonā€™t vote the lhf - Iā€™m voting the Lhf EODā€ like a massive contradiction. Now your stance makes sense