Ooc, are you currently voting Arete because you’re scumreading them or just because your vote is still on there from Surge?
certainly not with that comment
SirDerpsAlot
that you’re probably right
what did I forget
Please
[quote=“Solic, post:2333, topic:84107, full:true”]
It was early, get over it. I already explained why I did what I did. My posts have easily improved after I got some sleep.
Oh no, don’t be a coward Arete. QUOTE POSTS.
[quote=“Solic, post:377, topic:84107”]
[quote=“Solic, post:871, topic:84107, full:true”]
[quote=“SirDerpsAlot, post:626, topic:84107”]
Why would you be willing to townread something that adds nothing to discussion?
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This post dosent come off as curisoity and the tone kinda has an edge on it meant to discredit this imo
Rue:I’ve found that making worthless posts tends to be a scumtell, and was curious why Centuries came to the opposite conclusion with that logic.
refer to above about them saying they were curious
Rue:Gladly.
Cattail is pushing for productivity, which means nothing on its own, but is actually following up on it by asking provoking questions.
Sulit coming in to question Centuries about something she took note of without any sort of agenda behind it makes me feel good about her being town as well.
has to be asked to give reads meh
cattail read is bare bones, sulit read feels weird. “Withought any sort of Agenda” how do you know? Also wolves don’t push agenda 24/7 so like?
Rue:I still townread sulit, I think they’ve been questioning things with an open mind in a towny way.
Whats a towny way?
Rue:Why bother posting about the thread being dead then, instead of waiting for more input to occur naturally?
this post feels like the earlier one regarding centries.
Rue:I’m aware you’re busy, but when you get a chance, could you expand on your read on sulit and give your opinion on the posts Derps quoted?
I’m only pinging you to make sure you don’t miss this.
Why are you asking people for opinions on reads you haven’t given an opinion on? Is their a reason this read means something to you or did you just pick something random to ask about?
[/quote]SDA has a post that contains more than like 2 quotes, so townlean for me.
SirDerpsAlot:Im wiki diving but like with control F so im not really reading much
I also don’t see scum Derps putting in well… any effort, so I like this post too. It’s somewhat similar to how they called out someone else’s meta read in JOAT^2 by actually going to that game and fact checking it.
Cattail is probably town with this post and the prior big one being frustrated with town play.
[quote=“Solic, post:1779, topic:84107”]
I’ll betcha a million dollars Centuries doesn’t vote Rue nor Soltic here for longer then an hour.
[/quote] ChopChop:I don’t understand it from Erika as they don’t play with me as much and I feel it was just a vote with the purpose of no elaboration meaning there’s a good chance of them being scum.
ChopChop:But I also need to take into consideration it could also be to bump up the pressure on my wagon.
This feels like a tonal dissonance. The first is very cocky/confident/emulating town meta, but there is no follow-up, no tunnel as they themselves say is part of their meta. The second quote as I know it, is not how Town Surge would say it. They would say that Erika must be protecting their scum team and be their scumbuddy. There is just no fire. Whatever mech they are claiming is giving me some pause however overall I’m okay with this wagon.
ChopChop:My slot in itself ain’t a good lynch as it’s like a “late game” resort for town.
Which leads to I townread Centuries/Sulit/Cattail and townlean SDA/Santa, because SDA still did this weird lost wolf signal at the start and Santa has a greencheck by someone I townread.
No shit, I get deflated somewhat after my main scumread suddenly gets a greencheck on them.
As for calling my reads surface level, let me repeat this argument I had before in my last two town games.
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beyond base-level
very low-level
very surface-level player.
In general, I feel like a lot of players this game are overcomplicating everything and maybe that’s what makes me a bit annoyed.
I just had to point this hypocrisy. I wonder if I belonged into both groups for you now.
The fact that flameo voted for Mole for not answering a question about reads 1 hour into game start, does not feel real to me.
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YES. Finally someone worded this in a way I can get behind.
[/quote]This was completely unrelated to what you’ve said about me thus far…?
Because it’s very easy to claim to scumread someone because “they haven’t done enough.” Effort doesn’t necessarily equate villageriness/wolfiness by itself. Wolves like making easy reads because they are, well, easy. Easy to fake, too. Especially earlygame, when you are settling into the thread.
So you expect me to materialize something super complex exactly at that, the start of the game…? A read also does not have to be complex to be right. I’ll need to re-case probably everyone, because I am getting really bogged down by this specifically.
I have more in my life to do now, so yes I am not going to do the same as my very best town game. Deal with it. Especially on day fucking 1, not in the weekend. My last two town games, I was also playing “surface” level and I did just fine.
Arete:his read on my slot feels bad faith, I’m trying to avoid being biased here because it’s my slot but as far as I can tell the entire basis of his push is 1-2 games of meta despite the fact that he’s literally never even played with scum!Surge and that he explicitly called out an earlier meta-read on him for only referencing a single game. The post where he voted me also feels tonally off, like, it doesn’t feel like he’s speaking to someone he genuinely believes is a wolf.
I’ve read through Surge scum in Wild West FM and my meta is less stark, considering my last scum game is like a year ago? I don’t even remember it. Surge has played way more consistently last few games and I was being tunneled by them for a good 250 posts or so in my last game, so it’s quite easy to distinguish from the lack of fire they displayed here.
Post 1.
So surely if you’re reading my posts that closely, you’d have an alignment read on me!
legacy reads on like three quarters of the game
[quote=“Solic, post:2490, topic:84107, full:true”]
I thought Solic’s tone was really self-aware to a degree that was kind of unusual for him. I’m aware that this isn’t entirely a new take but it’s what I have
@Solic I’m going to need you to explain the motivation behind this vote and specifically why you didn’t place it earlier
yes I have a reason for asking this
[quote=“Arete, post:1799, topic:84107”]
I have had a rough day, but it’s RVS, so I can say this is my time to be anti-town and then later on be called out for being anti town to find town, so it’s pro town or anti-town or both or neither.
[/quote](when I said I remembered Solic being self-aware this is the sort of thing I was talking about)
[quote=“Arete, post:1801, topic:84107”]
So You’re doing something different than town you would be rn?
[/quote] Solic:Hahahah. That’s an understatement.
uhhhhhhh
explain please
Arete already made his conclusion on me being scum when they replaced in, because it was easy. My early posts were scummy, so a clear opportunity for them. They ask these questions to seem like they are still sorting, but after fucking up twice in their reasoning, they still decide to vote for me instead of pausing and looking elsewhere.
ok on reflection I think I’m going to need to actually read the thread to figure out if this answer is good or not
Solic:because I’d feel bad about activity reading him in like the first 24 hrs.
the one thing that sticks out as specifically weird is that you’re talking about activity reading him? which … he’s a middle of the pack poster postcount-wise so that’s kind of ???
[quote=“Centuries, post:1820, topic:84107”]
the one thing that sticks out as specifically weird is that you’re talking about activity reading him? which … he’s a middle of the pack poster postcount-wise so that’s kind of ???
[/quote]seth was the last person to post and was like, a 4 poster for the first 16+ hours
and then he came back and did stuff but no one was like
“oh yeah this is town seth”
thats like quite literally what happened
(uh for reference the reason I asked the initial question to Solic was that I was lowkey tinfoiling that him being willing to vote me but not having voted Surge was indicative of scum that did not particularly care either way about whether Surge got voted out, but was super happy to get me voted out because I am, uh, more competent than Surge)
Solic:And also i had already made the argument on Surge right before you replaced in, it’s coincedimce, fuck mobile typing.
[/quote]well see this is one of the things I was trying to get you to clarify so that I could evaluate the likelihood of my tinfoil actually being correct
And then they end it with a vote after looking solvey enough.
Arete:/vote Solic (@astand)
- his early posts were extremely self-aware and performative, in a way that makes me think that he’s trying to look like he doesn’t care about pressure when actually he clearly does. when pressured on it he claims it’s because FK suggested he change his style but unless the way he changed his style was ‘acting like a self-aware wolf for no reason’ that doesn’t really explain things?
examples
Solic:I have had a rough day, but it’s RVS, so I can say this is my time to be anti-town and then later on be called out for being anti town to find town, so it’s pro town or anti-town or both or neither.
Solic:Your gut is scum.
This sentence makes sense.
My soup just burned.
Solic:I think I mislynched PKR like 6 or 7 times now…? I think the only thing I can do about this slot is to completely ignore it this time around and just let others think about them.
Solic:/vote Solic Let’s gooo
- the depth of thought in his posts has overall been low compared to what I know he’s capable of, I know some of this is probably him being busy but his reads are very surface level
(I’m not going to quote posts for this because it’s essentially his entire Iso)- his read on my slot feels bad faith, I’m trying to avoid being biased here because it’s my slot but as far as I can tell the entire basis of his push is 1-2 games of meta despite the fact that he’s literally never even played with scum!Surge and that he explicitly called out an earlier meta-read on him for only referencing a single game. The post where he voted me also feels tonally off, like, it doesn’t feel like he’s speaking to someone he genuinely believes is a wolf.
examples
@Arete post 2.
How do you keep breaking posts like this?
You screwed up so much BB code that I am almost impressed.
Mindmeld lol
Arete just self vote and give me free town point smh
yeah I haven’t read any of solic’s broken posts ama
wait im not voting arete am i
no you are not
|Arete|Cattail, Solic, SirDerpsAlot, Wazza, PokemonKidRyan, Santa|6/10
/vote Arete
Hello.
Do you have any specific reason for following Wazza so strongly this EoD?
mmrmmmmmmmmmmmm
/vote Eli
I think this is the likeliest wolf this EoD
I think if it is he is treating wagons like the same alignment
I
want
I just press the damn quote button…
I clearly can’t work on readability now anyways, like it matters atm, like 2 minutes left.