[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

[Leafia]

Easy. I’m trying to figure out why exactly you townread Sulit just because of some silliness that they posted that isn’t really AI. Scum can have a relaxed tone as well after all, so I find it strange that you’re townreading them due to that and I’m trying to figure out why and if you actually believe what you’re saying.

[an_gorta_pratai]

I will be on more later, as I am very tired

[Leafia]

You should take a nap/get some sleep.

[Flameo]

@sulit

the fact that katze predicted what I’d do then voted me back makes me thing they’re town, and then they referenced anni in regards to me reading them that way

Also as scum theyre more conscious about what they post but don’t tell them I said this

I don’t see why them anticipating your reaction would make them more towny? Can you elaborate a bit on this please?

[CatLover]

I have explained why! Did you not read my post?

I explained that I thought that the off-topic posting with the undertone of an urge to solve was why I found her to be more likely town, and the fact that I correctly predicted her read on katze having actual beliefts behind it makes me think that my original post was in fact correct!

[Leafia]

@Flameo

@CallMeIo

All of us in this thread could be Town!

The scum could be the zero posters!

I don’t like this post. Like yeah, that could be true, but the ball needs to get rolling somehow and you don’t seem too interested into getting it rolling.

/vote CallMelo

I do like this post though, as Flameo is showing initiative which I like.

[katze]

@sulit

@Flameo

I would like more of an explanation on Sulit’s part of the townread if that was legit.

the fact that katze predicted what I’d do then voted me back makes me thing they’re town, and then they referenced anni in regards to me reading them that way

Also as scum theyre more conscious about what they post but don’t tell them I said this

i dont get why me predicting what you’d do is town AI of me

and i obviously disagree that im conscious about what i post as scum even though my last wolf game would support that theory, every other wolf game i’ve had (bar my very first) doesn’t support this

[sulit]

it makes them more likely to have the same perspective as me

[sulit]

[Leafia]

I read it, but that seems like a somewhat shallow reason to townlean someone as I don’t see how silliness shows a willingness to solve, although I do see what you’re getting at slightly now.

[CatLover]

I mean it was written with 70 posts in, it’s obviously not going to be a super in-depth read. I can explain further exactly why I believed sulit’s joking post about katze to be in fact a real read, if you would want that!

[Flameo]

@Flameo

I don’t see why them anticipating your reaction would make them more towny? Can you elaborate a bit on this please?

@katze

i dont get why me predicting what you’d do is town AI of me

I like the fact that Katze had a similar question as me, which didn’t feel intentful.

[Leafia]

Fair enough and I think I see it so explaining further isn’t necessary now, although being willing to explain further is a good look for you that I like.

[Wazza]

Haha,

locktown gang

[Elephas]

I suppose I should broaden my view and look at players outside of Leafia.

@Flameo

The Katze/Sulit exchange makes me think that they are not a scum team, because the exchange is just too weird to start out like that if that makes sense? I don’t see them planning that out like that. I would like more of an explanation on Sulit’s part of the townread if that was legit.

I dislike the idea of Wolf/Wolf reads this early. I think we should be focusing on indivudual levels of wolfiness, at least until we have votes, and other mechanics to work with.
I also believe “if that makes sense?” is an interesting phrase to use alongside a Wolf/Wolf read, as it implies they cannot explain it fully.

@CatLover

So far I am a pretty big fan of sulit’s tone in thread. She seems to have this almost concealed confidence about her. On first glance, it seems like she’s just having fun in thread, but in a few of her posts, I see a subtle side come out that I think is a really good look!

Reading through this large post, I find myself agreeing with CatLover. I would love if someone with knowledge of Sulit’s meta would chime in and tell us if her opener is anything of value.

@Leafia

Not sure what my take is on Sulit and Catlover is right now, but I’ll have my eye on both of them. Could they both be groupscum? Possibly. Could they both be town? Also possible.

@CatLover

What is this post actually trying to accomplish? “Could they both be groupscum? Possibly. Could they both be town? Also possible.”. What does that actually say about our alignments? How does a post like this help to advance the gamestate?

Unless this is some sort of read where you think sulit and I are aligned, I see no reason for this post to exist.

CatLover had the same thoughts as I at this moment. They beat me to the punch. I quite like this player so far as we have very similar takes on the game.

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I have to return to work now, as my lunch break is over.

[Flameo]

@Moleland

Leafia town this game

Can you elaborate on this a bit? This is a weird opener to me.

[sulit]

not digging mole or wazza atm

kat cat and flameo all seem fine so far

Io also seems off

[sulit]

@Elephas

I would love if someone with knowledge of Sulit’s meta would chime in and tell us if her opener is anything of value.

sulit is lock town :^)

[Flameo]

@Elephas

I also believe “if that makes sense?” is an interesting phrase to use alongside a Wolf/Wolf read, as it implies they cannot explain it fully.

I don’t think it’s that interesting if I have already said it’s a weird interaction to me. I’ll say that I’ll agree with this point though.

@Elephas

I dislike the idea of Wolf/Wolf reads this early. I think we should be focusing on indivudual levels of wolfiness, at least until we have votes, and other mechanics to work with.

[Leafia]

Townreading me this early without even explaining why? Is this an attempt to pocket me?