[VFM] JoaT^2 - (6/15) - 😹 Pirates (Town) Win!

[Arete]

Vote Count

Vote Target	Voted by	Votes
sulit	katze	1/8
CallMeIo	Flameo	1/8
Wiisp	Leafia, SirDerpsAlot, Moleland	3/8
Flameo	Vulgard	1/8
SirDerpsAlot	Wiisp	1/8
Moleland	Elephas	1/8
ash4fun	CatLover	1/8
Wazza	sulit	1/8

[ash4fun]

you’re twisting my words. That or I accidentally twisted them myself.

When I said “they don’t count”, that doesn’t mean I absolve myself of everything I said.

I simply mean that I don’t count them as a “read” as meant in the second sense.

[Wisp]

raises hand
Honestly without reading anything else, that feels like a backpedal

[ash4fun]

I’ve been trying to make a habit of making an iso-informed read on everybody by sometime mid-D1. I simply meant that I would do yours first, and probs make it its own post or smth.

[ash4fun]

It’s what I meant at the first.

I observed that people misunderstood me, so I did/am doing what I could/can to correct that mistake.

[Leafia]

Here’s my reads on everyone so far.

• SirDerpsALot: Hmmmm, tough to say for sure, but slight townlean. I like his tone so far.
• Wazza: Can’t remember much of anything from him, so null for now.
• Centuries: I don’t care much for how he’s defending Wiisp a bit in a way for scummy behavior, so scumleaning him.
• CatLover: Has a lot if good posts and shows a lot of effort to solve the game, so townreading him.
• Vulgard: Just popped in and out not really saying much. Very slight scumlean
• an_gorta_pratai: Has he even posted yet? I can’t remember. Null.
• sulit: I know he posted but I don’t remember much from him. Null
• CallMeIo: Null on this one too. Don’t remember too much of what he posted.
• Elephas: ines scumreading him earlier due to his take on me and how it felt but he has since improved. Townlean.
• Leafia: The hosts messed up and gave me her rolecard. Locktown.
• Moleland: This is one of two slots I’m most sure of. I hate his tone. Scumread
• ash4fun: His tone seems good so he’s a townlean for now.
• katze: They were like this in my last game with them too and they were town. Townread.
• Wisp: This is the slot that I dislike the most. Her push on Katze just feels like agenda to me.
• Flameo: His tone seems good so slight townlean.

[CatLover]

I mean, when you say that reads “don’t count”, to me it usually means they are just nullified! That’s what something not counting means! I am not trying to twist your words, I believe that is just the definition of the term! I apologize if it seemed that way, but I stand by my point that you saying that your earlier reads do not count feels like you are publicly devaluing them, consciously or not, to a level where I question why you would make them in the first place if you had planned to override them with larger reads later.

[Centuries]

ok im back and

@Leafia

Centuries: I don’t care much for how he’s defending Wiisp a bit in a way for scummy behavior, so scumleaning him.

uh

[CallMeIo]

@Leafia

Here’s my reads on everyone so far.

• SirDerpsALot: Hmmmm, tough to say for sure, but slight townlean. I like his tone so far.
• Wazza: Can’t remember much of anything from him, so null for now.
• Centuries: I don’t care much for how he’s defending Wiisp a bit in a way for scummy behavior, so scumleaning him.
• CatLover: Has a lot if good posts and shows a lot of effort to solve the game, so townreading him.
• Vulgard: Just popped in and out not really saying much. Very slight scumlean
• an_gorta_pratai: Has he even posted yet? I can’t remember. Null.
• sulit: I know he posted but I don’t remember much from him. Null
• CallMeIo: Null on this one too. Don’t remember too much of what he posted.
• Elephas: ines scumreading him earlier due to his take on me and how it felt but he has since improved. Townlean.
• Leafia: The hosts messed up and gave me her rolecard. Locktown.
• Moleland: This is one of two slots I’m most sure of. I hate his tone. Scumread
• ash4fun: His tone seems good so he’s a townlean for now.
• katze: They were like this in my last game with them too and they were town. Townread.
• Wisp: This is the slot that I dislike the most. Her push on Katze just feels like agenda to me.
• Flameo: His tone seems good so slight townlean.

Call me Bias.
But I TR Leafia for Bolded.

[Wisp]

Ash probably would look worse if he said his reads were shit, but it’s more so him saying they weren’t as detailed as the reads he plans to do in the future. Is what I am getting at

[Centuries]

@CatLover

I mean, when you say that reads “don’t count”, to me it usually means they are just nullified! That’s what something not counting means! I am not trying to twist your words, I believe that is just the definition of the term! I apologize if it seemed that way, but I stand by my point that you saying that your earlier reads do not count feels like you are publicly devaluing them, consciously or not, to a level where I question why you would make them in the first place if you had planned to override them with larger reads later.

If the argument is

Ash saying their reads don’t count because they don’t come from giga ISOs of each and every player which is what I understand

then I think it’s V ash

[ash4fun]

I can see how you would read it that way. I’m sure I would be equally horrified were someone to insist that everything they wrote back there is void.

But no, I meant they don’t count in the immediate context where I said your read would be first.

[Wisp]

Jesus Christ man

[Leafia]

You said she was likely town because they claimed that Katze was openwolfing for making a joke about being scum.

[CatLover]

Care to explain why?

[Wisp]

I’ve done worse as town, and I will always hate those posts

#notakebacks

[Centuries]

@Leafia

likely town because they claimed that Katze was openwolfing for making a joke about being scum.

I really do not understand your line of thoughts regarding this lmao

@CatLover

Care to explain why?

Wisp said the exact same thing

@Wisp

Ash probably would look worse if he said his reads were shit, but it’s more so him saying they weren’t as detailed as the reads he plans to do in the future. Is what I am getting at

[Centuries]

I think getting angry / not being happy with your reads due to the fact they aren’t reads you spent time on making is a townie attitude

[Leafia]

Now you’re just playing dumb. You literally said that Wiisp was likely town because she claimed that Katze was openwolfing due to them claiming to have told Sulit something in the scumchat.

[ash4fun]

To make it clear: at no point did I intend to devalue or disown my previous posts.

Nor did I even mean they aren’t necessarily as accurate or useful as future posts.

I simply meant that when I used the term “read” regarding doing CatLover first, my brain meant that as detailed-iso-read.