This is literally the definition of “clusterfuck”.
Tbf, I’ve seen some clever uses of the arrow by unseen. If you’re going to die anyway, may as well take the hunter out.
Sucks for NK though
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Alright, but knight needs something to make it less of an easy execution. Maybe give knight a bleed ability and hunter poison?
We shouldn’t screw with trials in general. It’s the BD’s main tool, and it takes away a lot of the fun of the day phase.
I feel we really should replace Loyalty and Poor Fellow with an alternate punishment.
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No, but it should have something to prevent it from being easily executed.
Retribution doesn’t “screw with trials”.
Killing is evil’s main tool, and physician prevents that. If there are ways to mess up healing/protection, then there needs to be ways to mess up trials as well.
Well I’d point to the ToS Jester kill, but that might be too lame.
A good alternate I’d say is occupying all BD the next night, since the night phase isn’t as long as the day phase.
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Yeah. But it’s kind of different as Fool.
It’s a neccasary punishment, as opposed to the Hunter.
That punishes Sheriffs fooled by his self-frame way too much for my liking
What if Fool just doesn’t though
Let the Fool bask in his own win, but then the problem is that there’s almost no downside for letting a Fool win other than wasting a trial
I don’t like Frame as a Fool ability in the first place.
I wouldn’t mind giving it Retribution.
I mean what if Fool just didn’t do anything
Like what if it didn’t exist at all
All problems fixed easy
Fool is cool, orange 
Still, it has be somewhat distinguishable from a real evil. They should talk their way to death, not have the invests do it for them.
I’ve read that. However, my counter argument is that Fool by definition is an incorrect lynch.
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