Rwby fm - wolves win! at least it wasnt a ******* scumstomp

Blizer · June 7, 2021, 10:13pm

Honestly thats pretty true

Arete · June 7, 2021, 10:13pm

okay so I went through Eli’s allegedly really good meta breaking wolfgame and compiled all the posts that resemble something resembling an attempt at solving

Summary

[quote=“EliThePsycho, post:922, topic:87295, full:true”]

i was about to nominate him anyways for this

there are a reasonable number of them but they all suck, like literally there is nothing in them that’s actually villagery and almost nothing resembling a social read (though part of that is the limits of the format)

meanwhile here are all of his vaguely-resembling-of-solving posts in this game

Summary

EliThePsycho:

Yellow:

Atlas:

By the way on a scale of 1-10 how serious are you guys?

as long as I can turn in my assignments early, I’ll be able to participate.

Hmm yes
a scale of 1-10

Marluxion:

I almost singlehandedly murdered the cult as hunter, with the help of the roleblocker gang windward and eli

roleblocker gang roleblocker gang

Marluxion:

there is like no universe where you see that pkr post and think it’s not genuine

you imply that we all think the same way

Arctic:

could marshal not just be a wrong villager
or trying to pocket town eli

Arctic:

Appelsiini:

then I’m wrong too and I’m not considering worlds like that

not considering worlds where you’re wrong sounds like a recipe for disaster

arctic says it for me
poggers

Marluxion:

i think the marshal / eli w/w theory actually fits kinda

~~is it just me or is this confbias~~

Hippolytus:

Yeah I skimmed her after cloneds read and I actually agree, it’s why cloned is my highest town

hmm yes
“sheeping my TR and then turning that sheep into my highest TR”
idk man

Marshal:

(I’ve actually read all of the posts but haven’t, like, read them. People who are good at fm know what I mean)

i feel this

min:

Most social deduction games doesnt allow you to talk at night, unless atlas literally only plays like what…untrusted? You can talk at night in that game iirc It just seems very unneeded in my opinion not to be like “xdxd derpclear denied lockscum” because they do seem new I just ? Idk I dont like that question

he played untrusted and tos i think
dropped tol a long time ago tho

EliThePsycho:

Wazza:

Also, @EliThePsycho why did you just completely ignore my entire wallpost on you, I put effort into that

one sec let me do that (showing up next post)

Vulgard:

I’m on a hot streak of reading Derps correctly for like 5 games in a row and I think he’s town once more.

why do people do this
they go
“i read them correctly in the past”
and then use that as justification…
like c’mon at least use something real as justification

so the whole thing about BlueLance is dum

Vulgard:

BlueLance:

As for me though, I am VT all the way! I have a vote, and can type. No clue if flavor text actually means anything so no point posting it XD

Missed the VT claim, he’s just town.

i do not like this in any way
he may be correct for all i care
but i don’t like how he instantly switches from “BlueLance not playing the game lets get em bois” to “BlueLance locktown”

crich scum

CRichard564:

Which is something I’d expect scum!Mist to avoid as 1 dead scum hurts scum far more than 1 dead town hurts town.
I don’t think anyone knows how to think straight except me.
How sad is that?

why does he feel the need to include the bottom 2
like
what
he’s basically just discrediting everybody else’s worldview in 1 go
which is something a wolf would do

CRichard564:

And Arctic, you are part of the reason I got banned for a month.
I won’t forgive you for that.

crich no
don’t give into the dark side

lol:

richard is a good guy i can feel it

no
just no

catchup post complete
i only started quoting like halfway through so let’s see how long it is

EliThePsycho:

Wazza:

Eli starts of with a meme vote on themself, this of course doesn’t mean much but I’m mostly including it as I feel like it’s more of a method to get attention onto himself early.

i
this is literally

why would a wolf want attention

it’s literally SoD1 i don’t get it

Wazza:

This sudden vote strikes me as odd, I can’t help but feel like it’s some sort of theatre play. At first I thought this was a memevote but later on I realised that it wasn’t a memevote but instead a performative vote to try and “show they’re doing something” in the game, at least that’s what it felt to me. He proceeds to call it AtE

~~honestly i thought there was more context there~~

Wazza:

and question the mere existence of it. This could’ve been fine but he continued on it.

is there a
problem that i continued on it

Wazza:

AtEing isn’t a thing if it’s not intentional and if he’s doing it unintenionally and not a way to trick us all, why would you vote him? If it’s not intentional, then it’s not pointing towards whether he is scum or not.

nono
it can be both unrealized and intentional
subconcious moment

Wazza:

Do you want to kill him for if he’s scum or just because you don’t like him for what he posted?

at the point in time when i posted this

the latter

Wazza:

Terrible post, there’s no way you ‘forget’ you’re voting the player you were literally just pushing on in the same hour, you stated you’d kill off PKR and literally 7 minutes later you’re like ‘oh I’m still voting him, oh gee golly I was unaware!’. That’s completely false and a clear lie. This post feels so fake to me. Also closes off an Eli/PKR team in my eyes from this one post.

ok but
i do this literally all the time
pretty much every game I forget something important

Wazza:

Unexplained reads, begin explaining them, please and thank you. Also, you re-read quite quickly for a player who didn’t know they were voting another player.

min is town for effectively the same reasons everybody else has outlined

Wazza:

Self-Meta’ing yourself is bad, I do it, yes. But I’m a hypocrite anyway.

ok but marl was the one who pointed it out in UPick so hah

Wazza:

This post (the full post, I’m not quoting it all and making this ISO analysis larger than it needs to be). This post is far too large for a random fluff post, it has so little content yet so much fluff, this feels intentionally done just to annoy people and make Eli seem like he’s doing stuff.

ok but
half of it was fluff i will admit that
but the other half is legit

Wazza:

The rest of his posts are complete fluff that unlike his last one, didn’t need to be commented on.

correct

[quote=“EliThePsycho, post:4883, topic:87956, full:true”]

[quote=“Arete, post:4881, topic:87956”]

it’s basically for the same reasons as consensus
do i really have to

[quote=“Arete, post:4881, topic:87956”]

i don’t like their pushes.

[quote=“Arete, post:4881, topic:87956”]

lol!newplayer shenanigans

now

I’m not going to say these are good

because they … aren’t, they have about the depth of a wading pool and there are definitely some ?? points

but they’re a lot better than his posts in BotF, where he supposedly broke his meta and had a super good wolfgame

so I’m inclined to think he’s town

~~basically what I’m saying is that it’s embarrassing for his wolfgame that these posts are village-AI for him but also I think they are village-AI for him~~

Marshal · June 7, 2021, 10:15pm

i dont care about helping, i care about using your reads against you

I do want to ask though
what changed

why is it now suddenly not wolfy to not show progression in thread after a flip if the person claims to have done it internally

even if you misread a post you still thought it was wolfy
what’s different from there and from here

Vulgard · June 7, 2021, 10:15pm

Something pings me about you saying this and seeing Arctic this way.

Blizer · June 7, 2021, 10:15pm

Easy

Your misyeet my ass, then you misyeet Eli or Derps, hell even fucking Atlas for all i know

Arete can also be distancing, sure it can prolong the game, but it can help wolves in the long run to get into towncore, by bringing in their partners pelt.

Marshal · June 7, 2021, 10:16pm

he’s literally lock villager levels of villagery

he’s extremely extremely extremely townie and frankly if one cannot see that it is absurdly pepega

Vulgard · June 7, 2021, 10:16pm

I thought the way you did it was opportunistic. People are assuming the way I did it was also opportunistic, but I fail to see how. Me townreading the Appel slot after they died does nothing for me. Me scumreading PKR after previously townreading him - fine, I can concede on that point. What was the third one again?

Arete · June 7, 2021, 10:16pm

wtf does this mean

Arctic · June 7, 2021, 10:16pm

you could have explained why you decided they were towny? it’s not that complicated

how can i view this like you’re trying to solve the game when you conveniently come in with 180’ed reads seemingly used to match the threadstate and push agenda

Arete · June 7, 2021, 10:16pm

“Inspired by: Vox Day”

ah.

Blizer · June 7, 2021, 10:16pm

Marshal is doing an Alpha move by voting derps

Marshal · June 7, 2021, 10:16pm

i want to teach you about sigma males but now is unfortunately not the time

Vulgard · June 7, 2021, 10:17pm

Have you read the towngame I linked? It was a game where I defended like 3 wolves, flipped my read on a villager like 4 times, and was town.

Mistyx · June 7, 2021, 10:17pm

now is absolutely the time

Vulgard · June 7, 2021, 10:17pm

And it was very recent, so you can’t argue it’s old meta I’m bringing up to save my skin.

Arete · June 7, 2021, 10:17pm

I revoked your preflips license, preflips are now illegal

Mistyx · June 7, 2021, 10:17pm

just because you can do this as town does nothing to convince me that you are doing this as town

Marshal · June 7, 2021, 10:17pm

Arctic · June 7, 2021, 10:18pm

this post seems fake
don’t know why

Vulgard · June 7, 2021, 10:18pm

But I’m showing it’s not alignment indicative for me to flip my reads a lot.