FAM Thread 2 (Day 2)

[Luxy]

Look she made some posts on day 1 but they had no substance and most of it was fluff I can’t really call that WiM

[GGhana]

her connection was awful

that shows high WiM

[Marluxion]

you’re gonna have to do better than shortnight 2 if you’re gonna shake my confidence here

[WindwardAway]

@Leafia

Also, you know you need to post more when someone literally forgets that you died once you’re dead.

So you knew Wazza died but you forgot? Like, you already saw that Wazza was dead and forgot about it?

[Luxy]

[GGhana]

anyways this is a pointless conversation

I agree that generally slots that do better after day 1 are generally villagers (except Chloe but she’s a statistical outlier and shall not be counted)

[Luxy]

Tbf I have done this in the past

[Marluxion]

Chloe is great after day 1, usually her openers are her worst part!

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ammogus

[Leafia]

Correct. I read all the flips every day after all and honestly, Wazza didn’t post much D1 so I kind of forgot she died since she hasn’t been mentioned much.

[WindwardAway]

Yeah so have I, but Leafia seemed like she was going for the “I didn’t know Wazza was dead” look instead of the “I forgot Wazza was dead” look
That disparity is wolfy

[Lemonfairy]

your D1 ISO is lame (jk I haven’t read it)

[Solic]

@Icibalus

i think this is the first time solic has ever not disagreed with me in his first post
what the fuck

@Icibalus

solic what the fuck normally i hate literally like 40% of your takes
why are we agreeing with each other all of a sudden

@Icibalus

okay valid, i still generally don’t like them
anyway since i actually kinda like your reasoning i’m going to go out on a limb and say you’re prooobably v? something something i’ll evaluate later

This just feels like pocketing to me tbh.

@Icibalus

Threadread: i actually tackled this in my previous post, but my rough place i’m at there is that i can probably provide a conclusion by… i’d say Day 2? it’s sort of a big project i’ve set for myself. resolve the mess that i brought up.

@Icibalus Time to deliver.

@Icibalus

playing devil’s advocate here: astand did drop slank cover pregame

Minus points

Like wtf is the below tonal shift. No thread shattering event like flips or mechanical claims or whatever had happened and they suddenly want to reset everything they did before from having some pressure on them (Jane and Hippo of which they scumread Jane in some way prior) with 46 players alive? It just reads as ATE’in to shake off pressure.

@Icibalus

/vote Blizer

@Icibalus

feeling sexy might unvote later

@Icibalus

i’m kind of vibing with luxy
can i call this v? yes, i will reevaulate later

@Icibalus

okay yeah i definitely need a break from the thread this is all coming off as kind of just. word sludge.
later. and sorry for being rude and not a very fun player.

@Icibalus

jane i literally rescinded that read because i was being dumb

@Icibalus

no
also hi hippo are you doing content now

@Hippolytus

yep your my only scumread.

@Icibalus

understandable, have a good day

@Hippolytus

A lot of your posts read as fancy word soup to me

@Hippolytus

The theoreticla macro micro stuff is the kind of stuff you do as mafia to look like you are helping and because most people don’t understand it you get away with it

@Icibalus

this has been like
my D-game and it’s really bad and i’m trying to figure out how to fix it. that’s probably why you’re reading it as word-soup. hopefully I’ll be better later?

i’m not really making any requests here, kill me if i keep playing this badly, just letting everyone know i guess

@Icibalus

you know what
fuck this
instantly rescinding every read I’ve posted this entire game. I’m starting from square one.

@Icibalus

I’m going to save rereading Vulgard for later, when I’ve grown more used to my reevaluated perspective rather than my old one, which was basically just sludge and cobwebs being spweed out as reads.

@Icibalus

(This is a less of a “I’m rereading everything” and more a "I’m pretending all my old reads don’t exist and looking at everything I see with a fresh perspective, probably relying more on motivation analysis than… whatever I was doing previously.)

@Icibalus

…Okay, this is going to sound rich from someone who just tore up all of their reads and is deliberately changing their tone in order to seperate those old reads from her new ones, this is going to sound rich, but could you try reading Blizer?

So I do something as both town and scum I haven’t done it here, so I’m town…? It’s just pocket 2.0 for me, because I didn’t scumread you in my opening it feels.

@Icibalus

Okay, I’m pretty sure that Solic is a villager. His posts are just altogether solid, and he seems to… Solic, this is a bit harsh, but sometimes as both wolf and villager you tend to shut down discussion and try to flatten things down to being NAI. And I haven’t seen him do that much this game, it feels like Solic is just…posting things he thinks will help.

It comes across as unburdened in a way I think is villagery.

I maintain association reads are bad this early, but they can make a read stronger or weaker at least and associations with Astand are not good.

@Icibalus

…Can I be perfectly honest?

I skimmed Astand’s ISO and I’m Not Seeing It

@Icibalus

No, i mean in the sense that i don’t see him being wolfy but I have like, zero astand meta.

@Icibalus

We’ve theoretically been in thread simultaneously in a few mashes but I’ve never paid any mind to him, nor him to me.

Doing these types of reads also just feels like you want those players to townread you without saying much at all…

@Icibalus

i legitimately think people might understand my reads better if i try to speak metaphorically, and also it’ll be funny

@Icibalus

marissa is probably wolfing honestly but i don’t have the heart to not let her have her fun for a few days

@Icibalus

Vulgard’s villagery because they give the vibes of the friend who, when discussing your interests with, they sort of understand your interests but you can’t quite understand quite why they think that and it’s awkward and it makes you want to dislike them, when if you actually just asked them they have at least semi-decent reasons for thinking what they do

It just feels genuine to me, on reevaulation.

@Icibalus

Orange is wolf because he gives off the vibe that he wants to watch sports with you, but if you actually do he won’t be the slightest bit interested in the game, and you just don’t get that vibe from him when he’s villaging, just off meta.

@Icibalus

…consider: we Just Kill Orange Today

Day 2:

@Icibalus

like, orange resolves quite a few things in the direction of astand, and how amenable people are to that wagon could be very useful for future VCA reads

@Icibalus

i chose Katze and investigative because i figured wolves would rolepeek kat. also because

@Icibalus

what? no. i got no result.

@Icibalus

i take it that means i was roleblocked then.

@Icibalus

true, but it at least tells us something? if there were any watchers on me for some reason we can prooobably out somebody later on, since i don’t think any villagers roleblock me tonight.

@Icibalus

okay i actually got a result just now lolhosts

@Icibalus

yeah, got a yes on investigative.

Fuck, this doesn’t sound fake.

Aaaaaahhhh

@Icibalus

solic i’ve literally changed gender since i last played have you considered that my personality has shifted slightly away from bullheaded stupidity

Good for you btw, apologies in advance if I misgender you. Will probably need to get used to it. Also I don’t think it’d shift personality in that way, so no I have not just considered you just being completely different…

@Icibalus

@KyoDaz

we should start forcing people to ITA a few more times after ITAing to make sure they don’t have a secondary ITA

this is angleshooting

@Icibalus

i’m like 90% sure “lmao let’s make everyone attempt to shoot to see if they have multiple shots” is angleshooting under a lot of rulesets

Someone said this is scummy, but I disagree. This just feels like trying to abuse rules, so I 100% agree it’s angleshooting. Kyo thinking of it gives them some minor town points.

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That mech thing really gives me pause and I hate it. Hmm… on second thought the action might have happened, but I suppose scum would also just use any abilities they have, including investigative ones… hmm…

Ngl kind of just want to sheep Luxy now

@Icibalus would appreciate you explaining that ATE yesterday.

[WindwardAway]

Well whatever, I’ll leave Leafia alone because my mind is made up already and I want other players dead before her

[GGhana]

that was the joke

thank you marl for paying attention

[GGhana]

why do I want to say that post is wolfy

[GGhana]

is it actually because it feels fake as fuck or because it’s dumber than a doorknob

[Leafia]

Of course I knew it at one point but I forgot it. Please stop trying to find wolfiness in everything I do.

[WindwardAway]

Which post?

[Marluxion]

the joke went over my head because it was a miss, chief