FAM Thread 2 (Day 2)

[Luxy]

I was told when I tried to push on Whysper that apparently TL’s flip can clear whysper

[Arctic]

i mean i guess but i don’t think they’ve been wolfy

they just seemed comfortable with dying and they seem natural enough

[orangeandblack5]

[Blizer]

also yeah if people havent yet

i reccommend people to read Solic’s wall on ici

Ici looks worse now with his soft ass defense posts on Astand/lol’s slot yesterday

[GGhana]

why haven’t they been wolfy

[orangeandblack5]

link?

[min]

there is so many people making cases/wagons on people lmao

[Solic]

I recommend people to always read my posts

[orangeandblack5]

okay yeah pushing me over luk while I’m pushing lol is super bad

[Luxy]

Amogus

[Blizer]

[quote=“Solic, post:4054, topic:88190, full:true”]

@Icibalus

i think this is the first time solic has ever not disagreed with me in his first post

what the fuck

@Icibalus

solic what the fuck normally i hate literally like 40% of your takes

why are we agreeing with each other all of a sudden

@Icibalus

okay valid, i still generally don’t like them

anyway since i actually kinda like your reasoning i’m going to go out on a limb and say you’re prooobably v? something something i’ll evaluate later

This just feels like pocketing to me tbh.

@Icibalus

Threadread: i actually tackled this in my previous post, but my rough place i’m at there is that i can probably provide a conclusion by… i’d say Day 2? it’s sort of a big project i’ve set for myself. resolve the mess that i brought up.

@Icibalus Time to deliver.

@Icibalus

playing devil’s advocate here: astand did drop slank cover pregame

Minus points

Like wtf is the below tonal shift. No thread shattering event like flips or mechanical claims or whatever had happened and they suddenly want to reset everything they did before from having some pressure on them (Jane and Hippo of which they scumread Jane in some way prior) with 46 players alive? It just reads as ATE’in to shake off pressure.

@Icibalus

/vote Blizer

@Icibalus

feeling sexy might unvote later

@Icibalus

i’m kind of vibing with luxy

can i call this v? yes, i will reevaulate later

@Icibalus

okay yeah i definitely need a break from the thread this is all coming off as kind of just. word sludge.

later. and sorry for being rude and not a very fun player.

@Icibalus

jane i literally rescinded that read because i was being dumb

@Icibalus

no

also hi hippo are you doing content now

@Hippolytus

yep your my only scumread.

@Icibalus

understandable, have a good day

@Hippolytus

A lot of your posts read as fancy word soup to me

@Hippolytus

The theoreticla macro micro stuff is the kind of stuff you do as mafia to look like you are helping and because most people don’t understand it you get away with it

@Icibalus

this has been like

my D-game and it’s really bad and i’m trying to figure out how to fix it. that’s probably why you’re reading it as word-soup. hopefully I’ll be better later?

i’m not really making any requests here, kill me if i keep playing this badly, just letting everyone know i guess

@Icibalus

you know what

fuck this
instantly rescinding every read I’ve posted this entire game. I’m starting from square one.

@Icibalus

I’m going to save rereading Vulgard for later, when I’ve grown more used to my reevaluated perspective rather than my old one, which was basically just sludge and cobwebs being spweed out as reads.

@Icibalus

(This is a less of a “I’m rereading everything” and more a "I’m pretending all my old reads don’t exist and looking at everything I see with a fresh perspective, probably relying more on motivation analysis than… whatever I was doing previously.)

@Icibalus

…Okay, this is going to sound rich from someone who just tore up all of their reads and is deliberately changing their tone in order to seperate those old reads from her new ones, this is going to sound rich, but could you try reading Blizer?

So I do something as both town and scum I haven’t done it here, so I’m town…? It’s just pocket 2.0 for me, because I didn’t scumread you in my opening it feels.

@Icibalus

Okay, I’m pretty sure that Solic is a villager. His posts are just altogether solid, and he seems to… Solic, this is a bit harsh, but sometimes as both wolf and villager you tend to shut down discussion and try to flatten things down to being NAI. And I haven’t seen him do that much this game, it feels like Solic is just…posting things he thinks will help.

It comes across as unburdened in a way I think is villagery.

I maintain association reads are bad this early, but they can make a read stronger or weaker at least and associations with Astand are not good.

@Icibalus

…Can I be perfectly honest?

I skimmed Astand’s ISO and I’m Not Seeing It

@Icibalus

No, i mean in the sense that i don’t see him being wolfy but I have like, zero astand meta.

@Icibalus

We’ve theoretically been in thread simultaneously in a few mashes but I’ve never paid any mind to him, nor him to me.

Doing these types of reads also just feels like you want those players to townread you without saying much at all…

@Icibalus

i legitimately think people might understand my reads better if i try to speak metaphorically, and also it’ll be funny

@Icibalus

marissa is probably wolfing honestly but i don’t have the heart to not let her have her fun for a few days

@Icibalus

Vulgard’s villagery because they give the vibes of the friend who, when discussing your interests with, they sort of understand your interests but you can’t quite understand quite why they think that and it’s awkward and it makes you want to dislike them, when if you actually just asked them they have at least semi-decent reasons for thinking what they do

It just feels genuine to me, on reevaulation.

@Icibalus

Orange is wolf because he gives off the vibe that he wants to watch sports with you, but if you actually do he won’t be the slightest bit interested in the game, and you just don’t get that vibe from him when he’s villaging, just off meta.

@Icibalus

…consider: we Just Kill Orange Today

Day 2:

@Icibalus

like, orange resolves quite a few things in the direction of astand, and how amenable people are to that wagon could be very useful for future VCA reads

@Icibalus

i chose Katze and investigative because i figured wolves would rolepeek kat. also because

@Icibalus

what? no. i got no result.

@Icibalus

i take it that means i was roleblocked then.

@Icibalus

true, but it at least tells us something? if there were any watchers on me for some reason we can prooobably out somebody later on, since i don’t think any villagers roleblock me tonight.

@Icibalus

okay i actually got a result just now lolhosts

@Icibalus

yeah, got a yes on investigative.

Fuck, this doesn’t sound fake.

Aaaaaahhhh

@Icibalus

solic i’ve literally changed gender since i last played have you considered that my personality has shifted slightly away from bullheaded stupidity

Good for you btw, apologies in advance if I misgender you. Will probably need to get used to it. Also I don’t think it’d shift personality in that way, so no I have not just considered you just being completely different…

@Icibalus

@KyoDaz

we should start forcing people to ITA a few more times after ITAing to make sure they don’t have a secondary ITA
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this is angleshooting

@Icibalus

i’m like 90% sure “lmao let’s make everyone attempt to shoot to see if they have multiple shots” is angleshooting under a lot of rulesets

Someone said this is scummy, but I disagree. This just feels like trying to abuse rules, so I 100% agree it’s angleshooting. Kyo thinking of it gives them some minor town points.

That mech thing really gives me pause and I hate it. Hmm… on second thought the action might have happened, but I suppose scum would also just use any abilities they have, including investigative ones… hmm…

Ngl kind of just want to sheep Luxy now

@Icibalus would appreciate you explaining that ATE yesterday.

^^^^^

[min]

its confusing the fuck out of me

[orangeandblack5]

ITAs mostly over

people waking up

what’d you expect

[Italy]

considering the overall power of the wolves that have flipped so far i think “being okay with dying” is gonna have to be shelved

[min]

AMONGUS SUS IMPOSTER SUSSY SUS SUS

[orangeandblack5]

silviu 14-posting is straight openwolfing

[Mistyx]

/ITA Hippoyeetus

[Arctic]

@GGhana

why haven’t they been wolfy

what

i think you need to say how they have been wolfy otherwise it’s a bit of a fallacious argument

[GGhana]

here @Arctic

[Blizer]

Dont worry

Trashbag has that covered