[FM] Ritual Mafia IV -- Day 4 (7/16) -- Heretics and Traitor Win!

[Braixen]

https://youtu.be/ls7J-xL5oOQ

[katze]

thats the problem

you’re too insane

[Italy]

free will is a myth
religion is all a joke
we are all pawns controlled by something greater

memes, the DNA of the soul

[Italy]

we’re going to be making metal gear rising memes for a while

[Wazza]

Okay now goodnight.

[SirDerpsAlot]

nappy rokugan/icecream

@Napoleon

What are you hoping to get out of me from that RT?

@Napoleon

And why?

@Napoleon

What makes you think this?

@Napoleon

Why do you think I’m scum?

@Napoleon

This post seems interesting but I’m kind of confused

@Vulgard explain pls

@Napoleon

Arete can you gimme your reads please?

@Napoleon

IIRC Arete is trying to kill Marshal in the Marsh/Vul duel so that doesn’t really hold up

@Napoleon

Why do you think this?

Do you think SDA has scum equity in that wagon?

@Napoleon

Why do you scumread SDA, Arete?

@Napoleon

Imma ISO SDA now I guess bc they don’t seem scum to me atm.

@Napoleon

@Arete
What do you think about this post?

@Napoleon

Why do you think Emilia is wolf?

@Napoleon

Could you throw a quick ISO on SDA as to why you scumread his slot?

If you don’t feel like (it’s fine, don’t force yourself) I’ll do it myself, but it would be nice.

@Napoleon

I remember going through SDA’s ISO a little bit and there were some things I really liked, and some things I didn’t like as much.

It’s a weird slot for me tbh and I can quote the posts myself.

@Napoleon

@SirDerpsAlot

Marshal you were right I am way more agressive as town lmao

+1; already explained thsi

@SirDerpsAlot

When have I ever cared if my posts were towny

I initially liked this, but then I thought about it and I don’t like it so much anymore. Honestly, I think you always cared SDA and you’re brushing it off.

@SirDerpsAlot

/vote SirderpsAlot

I agree

I see self-votes as NAI in this situation.

@SirDerpsAlot

I have to get back into my villa meta of being scummy so im better at scum

???

@SirDerpsAlot

I dont like Marshal/Arete vibes

Wait wait

NVm I forgot I gave up reading arete

I don’t know if he’s serious or not here. He should elaborate this. For the moment, this is NAI.
@SirDerpsAlot get your ass overhere

@SirDerpsAlot

Marshal be real with me you really think wolf me would do this

…halfway thru typing this I realised the answer to that is yes probabaly

Arete help me. I dont know how to read this post.

@SirDerpsAlot

okay okay so this was fun but I dont really wanna get lynched D1 as town again so imma chill

-1 . SDA implies that his behavior looks scummy and he seems pretty self-aware.

@SirDerpsAlot

why is everyone but sulit and emillia scummy

+1

@SirDerpsAlot

I wish I could shoot people

@SirDerpsAlot

I didnt look at what anything could do lol I just picked something that sounded badass

These two posts above seem contradictory to each other in the sense that I imagine SDA badassness be the ability to murder people.

@SirDerpsAlot

Anyways I really don’t like Marshal/Aretes interaction. Their being too nice. I just. Marshal hasnt even called arete a nerd. They have to be buddies

It happe

@SirDerpsAlot

Nappy your tone is so fucking bad

Would help if he explained this. Not punishing him for this though.

I can’t do this.

Anyways in summary.

Good looks for Derps:

• Improvement from start. More solvey than in Poisonous.
• Top posters (bad way to read but it’s different!!!)

Bad looks for Derps:

• Shit beginning
• Some weird posting

I seriously don’t know. I mean if we had a choice I would probably not lynch this today though.

@Napoleon

Arete come over here

@Napoleon

I didn’t give this ISO just for you to disappear

@Napoleon

Why do you think self-vote is AI?

I never thought too much of self-votes.

@Napoleon

I included the things that stuck out to me. When I did my ISO I went through each post individually and evaluated mostly through there. I found it to be mostly NAI and overall I can’t say too much about it.

I guess I’ll take a look at it now though in a compiled form.

@Napoleon

@SirDerpsAlot

Im gonna bus you again

@SirDerpsAlot

You and me both bud

Uhh actually I dont see SDA claiming wolf? I asked him if he was a wolf at one point as well and he said no.

@Napoleon

See normally a wolf would be aware of what these anti-claim mechanics are and yet you indicated in this line that you were unaware of what this meant.

So either it was a townslip or it was a fake “townslip”.

But when I ask about this the first thing that comes into your mind is if it’s forbidden.

So I’ll give you some V. Shame, I wanted to shoot you.

ICecream

@Napoleon

I was checking up on Vulgards Poisonous FM game

I don’t know why but I don’t feel that I like Vulgard so far

@Napoleon

They just kinda feel off to me.

I’m not ready to infer alignment though because first of all, this is SoD, and second of all, I know Vulgard will post more.

@Napoleon

Hey guys I just realized that my ice cream flavor is Vanilla. Therefore, I must be Vanilla Townie.

But let’s get to the good stuff.

@eevee-sama

/vote Vulgard

@eevee-sama Explain your vote please. Also eevee, a simple vote without any other text does not count towards your post count (according to Marshal) so you are still at 8.

Wazza is a nullread for me because I’ve seen him do this reaction as town. With that said, I’m sure he is fully aware of his own metabehavior and is capable of replicating it as a Mafioso. I pushed him for this to see how he would react, and overall now I feel it’s NAI.

Maybe it’s just because I didn’t know it was nightless too initially lol!

sulit is mindmelding with me and I like their entrance and their tone.

eevee remains null until they post more content because I can possibly see some wolf activity, but town activity likewise.

Now time for a Vulgard ISO.

@Vulgard

Wtf, wasn’t the game supposed to start later?

@Vulgard

convinces Napoleon in 5 posts that I am locktown

@Vulgard

Wait, I can’t go over 101 posts. Shit.

@Universal

I believe the best possible thing to do is to try and find as many townies as possible. The more we clear, the smaller our PoE gets

The fact there are no nightkills makes this way easier. Just project V energy and there’s no room for error unless hardbussing / hard distancing wins the game again like Poisonous which has just ended.

First three posts are just a bunch of fluff. Unfortunately for you Vulgard, you have a high reputation to live up to as a villager and this isn’t a good look for you.

@Vulgard

So basically whoever has a tendency to slank / not look towny should look towny this game and we win (unless you rolled wolf, in which case don’t do that)

[quote=“Universal, post:140, topic:80788”]

@Universal

Wait there are no mafia kills
[/quote]

Derpclear denied

Meh. @Vulgard I’m a bit confused as to what you mean with this post (the first part, not the denied derpclear part), so please elaborate.

@Vulgard

Yeah, there’s no night, which means no night kill (no factional kill.)

@Marshal

Nightfall

Who’s that?? Hi.

I guess I’ll try to condense as much content into my posts as I gain. Did that once in Virtuous, might as well do it again.

/vote eevee

I maintain that this is NAI, except why vote eevee? What are you hoping to get out of it?

@Vulgard

In Poisonous, Squid tried to townslip like 3 times in a row and was town. I’m seeing something similar here.

NAI but decent point.

@Vulgard

Felt like a leap, because you were sitting there peacefully in thread and you hopped onto Universal all of a sudden.

I skipped a post but basically its just Vulgard asking sulit why they voted Universal. NAI imo.

@Vulgard

Lynch the lowest posters.

This is the way.

/vote Appelsiini

Are you memeing? Are you serious?

@Vulgard

If I don’t feel like a villager by the end of EoD2 or something (maybe earlier), I’m probably a wolf and you should lynch me. I’m obvious af villager.

Didn’t rand wolf this game, so I hope I am gonna be obvious af villager d2, but still.

Eh, I guess we will see.

@Vulgard

Is she your wolf partner?

@Vulgard

I hope I don’t fuck up my post limit and get modkilled because of my stupidity. The fact we don’t have a new thread for this game is giving me paranoia I’m gonna screw that up.

Complaining about post limit but then posts either fluff or content that doesn’t seem to be going anywhere.

@Vulgard

Can you point at something, or is it just OMGUS?

@Vulgard

We must be distancing wolves, you should lynch us both. Everybody knows the recent success of hardbussing and hard distancing is going to influence all future wolf randers to play the same way.

@Vulgard

Arete, get out, you’re a spectator. Unless you’re quoting something, ig.

Sulit hasn’t been playing like her godawful start in Poisonous, which is a slightly good look. It was intentional then, but still.

@Wazza

It feels like you’re just jumping from ship to ship for reactions

And you think it’s wolfy… why exactly?

@Vulgard

Because Universal had already derpcleared before you did, or tried to do, the same thing. And you did it even harder, typing about claimvigs and what not despite the game saying VANILLA NIGHTLESS right in the title. Universal’s derp is less suspicious, because I can envision someone not seeing the connection between “nightless” and “mafia have no KP.” Your derp was so off the wall that I see it as a wolf’s attempt to derpclear really hard, which backfired.

@Vulgard

I think Universal might be a villager, reason in my previous post.

Give me a sec, I must selfvote and AtE because I’ve just been voted.

[AtE]

/vote Vulgard

I’m incapable of deepreading so I don’t really want to deepread these posts. Simply put, Vulgard doesn’t look like a villager here. Why?

• Vulgard is a high poster usually and they know this. He even indicated worry about posting too much so he doesn’t get screwed at EoD. But ask yourself this, how many of these posts are actually useful content? I think Vulgard is memeing more than usual (anyone disagree with me here?) and there is a post restriction ! What he is saying really feels off from how he is acting.

• His tone. I don’t know how to put it, but he feels off. He feels too casual and not really analytical, and I don’t really like it.

• Some of your actions are not yet explained; I do hope if you read over this ISO @Vulgard and you will explain these gaps

I would vote you again for this, but there is someone else I would like to direct my attention to first.

@Hippolytus

Town should have an advantage this game seeing as all the wolves dont know each other. I reckon we got this.

This is false. I just asked Marshal. This is such a dumb “townslip” that you’ve just earned some wolfcred. Every mafia game is typically an informed minority and you have no reason to believe otherwise unless specified. Congratulations, you earned my vote.

/vote Hippolytus

@Napoleon

Hi your thoughts on the game so far?

11/101

@Napoleon

@Napoleon

I’m fine with memes but there is a post restriction . Vulgard knows it. He even says he worries about it. He is a high poster. And he’s posting memes.

For what it’s worth this is the main reason I scumread Vulgard here.

I’m not very confident in my tonereads tbh but I do think my tonereads can be supporting evidence. I don’t think I’m being subjected to conf!bias here either.

@Napoleon

Once again I fucking mindmeld with you.

Talking about voting and not voting is kinda pointless as he didn’t care about it in previous games and it’s really inconsequential because first of all, a scumhammer has minimal impact and second of all, this does nothing to advance the game.

@Napoleon

I am pocketing sulit.

As a townie.

That exists btw.

And I like their paranoia to me too as a wolf could easily instantly townread me instead to play a reverse pocket.

I personally took your previous reads on Vulgard and Wazza as NAI just because:

@EVO

recent HoB game

Virtuous you mean? If so, you are scum in that game lol.

Though, if you are bringing it up anyways I’ll assume that you do truly believe about this vote thingy.

you too didn’t know this game was nightless either wow

@EVO

Interesting, I cant tell if sulit is a pocket or a teammate though, I’ll look more into their reactions after work

This is a hasty assumption.
Not the “pocketing logic” as upon self-eval I can see where this comes from.
What suggests to you the possibility of a Nappy/sulit scumteam?
This is noted and I will use it again upon evaluation when you post again.

@Vulgard

I like EVO’s posts because it doesn’t feel like they are care about their image whatsoever.

@EVO

Whoah whoah are people already making votes

@EVO

Epic level defense

@EVO

Vulgard is more memey than normal but tbh I welcome it, but it is odd how he picked a game with limited posts to start.

Wazza…idk, hes scummy in everygame I play with him and he is usually inno so I dont have his meta as wolf yet

3/101

Feels really natural. I dislike the hedging but I think the V pings are stronger than W pings.

Okay see I would agree with you but like I think EVO’s d1 gave me townvibes in Virtuous (even though I was evil) and I remember it being for a similar reason. (until I took some of his memes too seriously).

II’m still reading EVO as null but they will definitely post more before EoD which would be cool.

@EVO read this post please so it doesn’t get buried because i want answers

Vulgard, as for your question.

@sulit

The two people I scumread are voting eachother aaaaaaaaaa

I kinda just jumped at this post because this was exactly what I was thinking at this point of time (until I re-evaled Wazza based on reaction and etc.) Wazza is still is null territory.

So like overall nappy is much more analytical and questioning. He asks people more meanngfull questions much more often than Im seeing from scum Nappy. Also another thing I noticed is general read confidence. From what I saw, Nappy isnt generally as confident in their reads, especially early as Im seeing from them now

[katze]

derps who do you want italy to peek

[SirDerpsAlot]

Im done now that was a lot of work

[Braixen]

https://youtu.be/S4goJID2X9U

[SirDerpsAlot]

Wiisp

[katze]

Person	Who they want checked
katze	katze or Arete
Arete	Arete
Marshal	Arete
Napoleon	katze
sulit	sulit
Braixen	Arete
Italy	Literally anyone so you get no votes cause im not writing 1 for everything
Wazza	DryBones, Apprentice, katze
Derps	Wiisp

Votee	Total Votes
katze	4
Arete	4
Marshal	1
sulit	1
DryBones	1
Apprentice	1
Wiisp	1

also alice whenever you’re done writing your post i’d like you to cast a vote too

[Alice]

@Napoleon

That wagon would have stayed if Alice kept her vote on it tbh

Actually I re-analyzed it yesterday, and about three people unvoted Apprentice because they didn’t want him to quickhammer then I did it as his wagon grew a bit too fast for an EoD wagon.

After that we basically just forgot about him and went to Jgoes/Appel/Derps.

And I’m reading the thread rn.

[Italy]

alice
you’re greenchecked
shade yourself, town

[Italy]

wait i think i fucked it up

[Alice]

You. I’m pretty sure that Arete is town as I see no agenda in his reads, he’s mindmelding a lot with me, and then we have Italy’s soft-green check on him. I still have you on my null portion as nothing that I’ve seen pings me either way.

[SirDerpsAlot]

I just put in like an hour and a half into reading nappy who do I do this to myself

only to be ignored or simply said my reads bad

[katze]

its okay derps i uh

ill read it later okay

[SirDerpsAlot]

I dont belive you

[Italy]

and the years start coming and they don’t stop coming
fed to the rules and i hit the ground running

[katze]

Person	Who they want checked
katze	katze or Arete
Arete	Arete
Marshal	Arete
Napoleon	katze
sulit	sulit
Braixen	Arete
Italy	Literally anyone so you get no votes cause im not writing 1 for everything
Wazza	DryBones, Apprentice, katze
Derps	Wiisp
Alice	katze

Votee	Total Votes
katze	5
Arete	4
Marshal	1
sulit	1
DryBones	1
Apprentice	1
Wiisp	1

honestly if im doing all this work and italy is fucking scum im gonna give him so much shit postgame