[FM] Ritual Mafia IV -- Day 4 (7/16) -- Heretics and Traitor Win!

[sulit]

I’m trying to pinpoint why I don’t like napoleon

but I feel like there’s an obvious different between poisonous/nightless and this game

[sulit]

o/

[Marshal]

hey sulit your posts are kind of devoid of logic but i wanna give you a start

@sulit

but I feel like there’s an obvious different between poisonous/nightless and this game

why not just skim his ISO in that game and here and compare. Preferably with quotes

[sulit]

I am comparing them /shrug

[Wazza]

Nah not yet.

[sulit]

Like it feels like he’s more curious and confident in the other games, just read his first few posts vs his first few posts in this one.

Poisonous

@Napoleon

You are supposed to be voting Arete, you dingus

@Napoleon

Alright.

/vote Arete while I go read up

@Napoleon

Yet you are villager in Evolution Mafia and you tunneled Arete initially, who turned out to be wolf

@Napoleon

Your logic doesn’t hold up.

/vote Marshal

@Napoleon

It’s not OMGUS, it’s a reaction test to my lead.

So Marshal, what changed?

@Napoleon

Don’t interrupt.

@Napoleon

Okay.

/vote Italy

@Napoleon

In both games I’ve been town, I was towncored like D1. So I’m expecting to be towncored today.

@Napoleon

Have I not earned towncore in my previous games

@Napoleon

For what it’s worth if I’m not towncored today that means that my future wolf games will be easier.

Also I didn’t actually read the earlier chat because I got caught up in this opportunity.

@Napoleon

What feels off about my tone?

You can always go into more detail DatBird, if you look for it. That’s what I learnt.

@Napoleon

Also I have been looking at Amelia and I am reading null.

I know in that both my scum games I said that I read Amelia as town because of a towntell. I don’t really see it here but this setup kinda makes it more difficult.

I wasn’t lying about that.

Why else do you think I bled Amelia in SFoL?

@Napoleon

First post was sarcasm.
Second post - If his meta changes, there is a fucking reason for it.
Third post - Now I force him to respond to my assertation
Fourth post - I didn’t really think when I posted this tbh. What makes you think its OMGUS though?
Fifth post - Sorry . I didn’t want to be shaded while I hit Marshal.

Nightless

@Napoleon

/accuse Vulgard

You must convince me in your first 5 posts that you are a member of the town.

@Napoleon

I seriously do hate this post limit.

@Napoleon

Okay actually I think I know how I’m going to manage my posts

also @sulit get over here

(3)

@Napoleon

I was checking up on Vulgards Poisonous FM game

I don’t know why but I don’t feel that I like Vulgard so far

@Napoleon

They just kinda feel off to me.

I’m not ready to infer alignment though because first of all, this is SoD, and second of all, I know Vulgard will post more.

@Napoleon

Same as Vulgard’s

I haven’t determined Vulgards slot yet but his logic holds

Potentially is a a fake town slip especially since the title of this thread says NIGHTLESS

@Napoleon

Mindmeld lol!

@Napoleon

Hey guys I just realized that my ice cream flavor is Vanilla. Therefore, I must be Vanilla Townie.

But let’s get to the good stuff.

@eevee-sama

/vote Vulgard

@eevee-sama Explain your vote please. Also eevee, a simple vote without any other text does not count towards your post count (according to Marshal) so you are still at 8.

Wazza is a nullread for me because I’ve seen him do this reaction as town. With that said, I’m sure he is fully aware of his own metabehavior and is capable of replicating it as a Mafioso. I pushed him for this to see how he would react, and overall now I feel it’s NAI.

Maybe it’s just because I didn’t know it was nightless too initially lol!

sulit is mindmelding with me and I like their entrance and their tone.

eevee remains null until they post more content because I can possibly see some wolf activity, but town activity likewise.

Now time for a Vulgard ISO.

@Vulgard

Wtf, wasn’t the game supposed to start later?

@Vulgard

convinces Napoleon in 5 posts that I am locktown

@Vulgard

Wait, I can’t go over 101 posts. Shit.

@Universal

I believe the best possible thing to do is to try and find as many townies as possible. The more we clear, the smaller our PoE gets

The fact there are no nightkills makes this way easier. Just project V energy and there’s no room for error unless hardbussing / hard distancing wins the game again like Poisonous which has just ended.

First three posts are just a bunch of fluff. Unfortunately for you Vulgard, you have a high reputation to live up to as a villager and this isn’t a good look for you.

@Vulgard

So basically whoever has a tendency to slank / not look towny should look towny this game and we win (unless you rolled wolf, in which case don’t do that)

[quote=“Universal, post:140, topic:80788”]

@Universal

Wait there are no mafia kills
[/quote]

Derpclear denied

Meh. @Vulgard I’m a bit confused as to what you mean with this post (the first part, not the denied derpclear part), so please elaborate.

@Vulgard

Yeah, there’s no night, which means no night kill (no factional kill.)

@Marshal

Nightfall

Who’s that?? Hi.

I guess I’ll try to condense as much content into my posts as I gain. Did that once in Virtuous, might as well do it again.

/vote eevee

I maintain that this is NAI, except why vote eevee? What are you hoping to get out of it?

@Vulgard

In Poisonous, Squid tried to townslip like 3 times in a row and was town. I’m seeing something similar here.

NAI but decent point.

@Vulgard

Felt like a leap, because you were sitting there peacefully in thread and you hopped onto Universal all of a sudden.

I skipped a post but basically its just Vulgard asking sulit why they voted Universal. NAI imo.

@Vulgard

Lynch the lowest posters.

This is the way.

/vote Appelsiini

Are you memeing? Are you serious?

@Vulgard

If I don’t feel like a villager by the end of EoD2 or something (maybe earlier), I’m probably a wolf and you should lynch me. I’m obvious af villager.

Didn’t rand wolf this game, so I hope I am gonna be obvious af villager d2, but still.

Eh, I guess we will see.

@Vulgard

Is she your wolf partner?

@Vulgard

I hope I don’t fuck up my post limit and get modkilled because of my stupidity. The fact we don’t have a new thread for this game is giving me paranoia I’m gonna screw that up.

Complaining about post limit but then posts either fluff or content that doesn’t seem to be going anywhere.

@Vulgard

Can you point at something, or is it just OMGUS?

@Vulgard

We must be distancing wolves, you should lynch us both. Everybody knows the recent success of hardbussing and hard distancing is going to influence all future wolf randers to play the same way.

@Vulgard

Arete, get out, you’re a spectator. Unless you’re quoting something, ig.

Sulit hasn’t been playing like her godawful start in Poisonous, which is a slightly good look. It was intentional then, but still.

@Wazza

It feels like you’re just jumping from ship to ship for reactions

And you think it’s wolfy… why exactly?

@Vulgard

Because Universal had already derpcleared before you did, or tried to do, the same thing. And you did it even harder, typing about claimvigs and what not despite the game saying VANILLA NIGHTLESS right in the title. Universal’s derp is less suspicious, because I can envision someone not seeing the connection between “nightless” and “mafia have no KP.” Your derp was so off the wall that I see it as a wolf’s attempt to derpclear really hard, which backfired.

@Vulgard

I think Universal might be a villager, reason in my previous post.

Give me a sec, I must selfvote and AtE because I’ve just been voted.

[AtE]

/vote Vulgard

I’m incapable of deepreading so I don’t really want to deepread these posts. Simply put, Vulgard doesn’t look like a villager here. Why?

• Vulgard is a high poster usually and they know this. He even indicated worry about posting too much so he doesn’t get screwed at EoD. But ask yourself this, how many of these posts are actually useful content? I think Vulgard is memeing more than usual (anyone disagree with me here?) and there is a post restriction ! What he is saying really feels off from how he is acting.

• His tone. I don’t know how to put it, but he feels off. He feels too casual and not really analytical, and I don’t really like it.

• Some of your actions are not yet explained; I do hope if you read over this ISO @Vulgard and you will explain these gaps

I would vote you again for this, but there is someone else I would like to direct my attention to first.

@Hippolytus

Town should have an advantage this game seeing as all the wolves dont know each other. I reckon we got this.

This is false. I just asked Marshal. This is such a dumb “townslip” that you’ve just earned some wolfcred. Every mafia game is typically an informed minority and you have no reason to believe otherwise unless specified. Congratulations, you earned my vote.

/vote Hippolytus

@Napoleon

Wow you just spent another post by saying “lol”

Would you care to explain why you thought that Mafia weren’t informed?

@Napoleon

Now I feel kinda dumb.

yeah it makes sense given to your post prior and to your reaction to my vote.

/vote Vulgard

I don’t mind lynching both Vulgard/Wazza at some point of the game btw.

12/101

@Napoleon

I’m fine with memes but there is a post restriction . Vulgard knows it. He even says he worries about it. He is a high poster. And he’s posting memes.

13/101

@Napoleon

With no night kills, I’m fine if a scumbag wants to out themselves by early hammer.

14/101

@Napoleon

Stahp posting semi-important stuff I don’t want you to be silenced by post restriction

16/101

@Napoleon

Once again I fucking mindmeld with you.

Talking about voting and not voting is kinda pointless as he didn’t care about it in previous games and it’s really inconsequential because first of all, a scumhammer has minimal impact and second of all, this does nothing to advance the game.

17

@Napoleon

I am pocketing sulit.

As a townie.

That exists btw.

And I like their paranoia to me too as a wolf could easily instantly townread me instead to play a reverse pocket.

I personally took your previous reads on Vulgard and Wazza as NAI just because:

@EVO

recent HoB game

Virtuous you mean? If so, you are scum in that game lol.

Though, if you are bringing it up anyways I’ll assume that you do truly believe about this vote thingy.

you too didn’t know this game was nightless either wow

@EVO

Interesting, I cant tell if sulit is a pocket or a teammate though, I’ll look more into their reactions after work

This is a hasty assumption.
Not the “pocketing logic” as upon self-eval I can see where this comes from.
What suggests to you the possibility of a Nappy/sulit scumteam?
This is noted and I will use it again upon evaluation when you post again.

@Vulgard

I like EVO’s posts because it doesn’t feel like they are care about their image whatsoever.

@EVO

Whoah whoah are people already making votes

@EVO

Epic level defense

@EVO

Vulgard is more memey than normal but tbh I welcome it, but it is odd how he picked a game with limited posts to start.

Wazza…idk, hes scummy in everygame I play with him and he is usually inno so I dont have his meta as wolf yet

3/101

Feels really natural. I dislike the hedging but I think the V pings are stronger than W pings.

Okay see I would agree with you but like I think EVO’s d1 gave me townvibes in Virtuous (even though I was evil) and I remember it being for a similar reason. (until I took some of his memes too seriously).

II’m still reading EVO as null but they will definitely post more before EoD which would be cool.

@EVO read this post please so it doesn’t get buried because i want answers

Vulgard, as for your question.

@sulit

The two people I scumread are voting eachother aaaaaaaaaa

I kinda just jumped at this post because this was exactly what I was thinking at this point of time (until I re-evaled Wazza based on reaction and etc.) Wazza is still is null territory.

Meanwhile in this game their posts just feel kinda shorter and they don’t have the same energy that I see in the above ^

I get they say they’re memeing etc etc. But eh. I don’t get the same feel, even from their later posts.

Please tell me if I just don’t make sense and there’s no difference

[sulit]

confused noises

[Marshal]

@sulit

Meanwhile in this game their posts just feel kinda shorter and they don’t have the same energy that I see in the above ^

ok so imma sound like a dick but can you quote posts from his game here too?

[sulit]

just open his ISO

[sulit]

reeee

[Marshal]

but i don’t want to

[sulit]

Ritual

@Napoleon

im town

@Napoleon

/vote sulit

@Napoleon

Sorry I think I forgot to mention this but

im town

@Napoleon

being honest is not awkward

@Napoleon

Arete thinking they look so town with their early game aggression

@Napoleon

i had that planned

@Napoleon

no

@Napoleon

that “OMGUS” was… let’s say semi-planned

@Napoleon

my plan was to come in and say “im town” with the inevitable “why” that I expected to come, to which I answer “lol im town”

@Napoleon

@Marshal

ewww is this a “take”

this sucks

tunnel time

I agree that take sucks

@Napoleon

i wanted to have fun

@Napoleon

KyoDaz why are you pocketing me?

@Napoleon

For real though that take was bad.

@Napoleon

It’s okay we’re still friends Arete

@Napoleon

Kyo/Arete not W/W

gg ez

@Napoleon

You think Arete/Kyo could be W/W?

@Napoleon

Ask your scumchat.

@Napoleon

/vote Arete

@Napoleon

@Arete

leaning town on Marshal here

in my experience he pockets me more as wolf, I don’t see him going for the ‘lynch Arete’ plan when instead he could go for the ‘haha yes Arete your read on [villager I scumread at some point] is correct’ play

@Marshal

y’all can we lynch arete 30 mins in plz

@Napoleon

@SirDerpsAlot

/Vote Nappy

you said you believed i was town tho

@Napoleon

ill keep repeating it until it’s true

im town
im town
im town
im town
im town

[Braixen]

That was quick holy fuck

[sulit]

its just quoting posts i-

[ChopChop]

@sulit
Why didn’t you listen to OnlyA when BATMAN puppeted you?

[sulit]

Going to be honest I don’t know what you’re talking about

[Marshal]

ok no tbf u are right sulit

i feel like nappy is IC or wolf tbh

[ChopChop]

@sulit

Going to be honest I don’t know what you’re talking about

MU Championship about 2 years ago

[sulit]

I’ve never been to championships-

[sulit]

You agreed with this too fast now I’m paranoid