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im pissed that im endgaming another mash
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WAIT I JUST REALIZE DSOMETHING
holy shit
pov
it has been an hour since sod and you towncased the dead person who flipped town
WHY DO WOLVES ALWAYS MAKE AWKWARD POSTS TO ME
also holy shit he literally quoted a wolf doing it and did it themselves
thats golden
Wait… uhh. Blizer is #1 in the playerlist and is still listed as alive. I’m glad I didn’t went on to other days lol.
im dying
the last line of this post is weird because the rest is a copypasta so like
it’s obviously not serious, the clarification feels overdone
DAY 2 VOTECOUNT
Player Voted by Votes Whysper orangeandblack5, Esooa, GGhana, TrustworthyLiberal, Appelsiini, Mistyx, Vulgard, Blizer, katze, PokemonKidRyan, nutella, WindwardAway, Universal 13/15 Universal Lemonfairy, ArcticXI 2/15 TrustworthyLiberal Solic 1/15 Not voting Aelin, EliThePsycho, Centuries, Whysper, Silviu200530, Emilia, an_gorta_pratai, clonedcheese, Marluxion, Luxy, Jane, Frostwolf, Italy 13 Both majority and plurality are in effect. With 29 players alive, it takes 15 to reach majority.
Day ends 21 juni 2021 07:00
DAY 2 VOTECOUNT
Player Voted by Votes Whysper Mistyx, Marluxion, nutella, Universal, WindwardAway, katze, orangeandblack5, Blizer, Aelin, GGhana, an_gorta_pratai 11/15 Marluxion Whysper, Esooa, TrustworthyLiberal, EliThePsycho 4/15 Not voting Centuries, Silviu200530, Emilia, clonedcheese, Luxy, Jane, Frostwolf, Italy, Appelsiini, Vulgard, PokemonKidRyan, Lemonfairy, ArcticXI, Solic 14 Whysper, Marluxion, and No-Elimination are the only valid targets today.
Both majority and plurality are in effect. With 29 players alive, it takes 15 to reach majority.
Day ends 21 juni 2021 07:00
7 town flipped
1 Mafia
1 Imperial
4 remains1-2 wolves remains in the game and there’s no separate wolves that are against town and win with Mafia.
The way this wagon can be solved can go two ways: Either they are all town and narrowed the list much to 6 other players remaining: Me, LemonFairy, Solic, Italy, ClonedCheese and Emilia.
Or there is one wolf in Whysper’s wagon and another not voting/or at smaller wagons.
@Katze How does EoD D2 look like with vote count?
Orangeandblack5, GGhana, MistyX, Katze stayed on the wagon, remaining players are Solic, Lemonfairy, Italy, Me, ClonedCheese and Emilia.
…I hope I am using Occam Razer’s wrong but there’s no difference thus the answer is simple:
The way this wagon can be solved can go two ways: Either they are all town and narrowed the list much to 6 other players remaining: Me, LemonFairy, Solic, Italy, ClonedCheese and Emilia.
Or there is one wolf in Whysper’s wagon and another not voting/or at smaller wagons.
I’d say its option 2.
The way this wagon can be solved can go two ways: Either they are all town and narrowed the list much to 6 other players remaining: Me, LemonFairy, Solic, Italy, ClonedCheese and Emilia.
I mean like this sorry.
Frostwolf103:Or there is one wolf in Whysper’s wagon and another not voting/or at smaller wagons.
I think the mafia weren’t counting on piling on these wagons at D2 except for Nutella and Gorta
meh
my gut still thinks lemon is town but it’s not a read im willing to lose on
i’m fine killing her and hoping it just ends on that
@Lemonfairy nya
eh im just gonna play video games or somethin
mashes are draining and im taking any opportunity i can to slow down
ping me if yall want me or some shit idk
jane is wolfy
They actually were the first vote on Jane, so it already showing up here is good.
min trending down, FK and nutella trending up
amelia up, vul down
also jane can leave the wolfy pile
Shame, we could have bagged them d1.
it wasnt an offsite player it was solic why am i stupid
I’m kind of a rarity nowadays.
i think intensify randed wolf and there arent really good reasons to wolfread astand, especially not postcount
im gonna go do the event now later gamers
nutella is like my top village read rn lol
i think her reactions have felt super genuine in a way i dont think she can really replicate as scum
luxy’s is wolfy and tan’s is rand
Hmm, really didn’t get this on day 1, I was vibing with like all their posts there then.
luxy/frostwolf/intensify
lets just bomb these three maybe
Boo
my approach to reading night is
very unique
so i probably wouldn’t read me off of it in any game
shrug
my usual metrics for reading night dont apply here for
reasons that arent really game related
given what my usual metrics are
im not particularly good at reading her off of her actual content
marl i can go into detail about my night stuff if you want
i just havent mentioned it because
its kind of awkward lol
okay
night is generally someone i read on emotions
i personally am very good at this because, well, we’ve been best friends for a while now, i talk to her almost every day, i know her well as a person
i found her as v in upick because her emotions were clearly bleeding into her play in a way i know she regulates more as a wolf, i had her as v from spec chat in g2 for the same reason
her emotions recently have been less obviously negative (and less negative overall, which is good!) so i have less to go off of
the stuff earlier with the typos i do not think was out of her wolfrange. i think regardless of her alignment, she was forcing herself to stay in thread for mental health reasons (that she did bring up in thread) while in a negative emotional state
i think she could do that as either v or w because the emotions were probably genuine anyway, and there haven’t been any other points where i’ve seen anything like i did in upick or g2
i honestly dont think ill be able to read night on this metric consistently anymore so im ok outing the tell i had
point is theres a ton of personal nuance that doesnt really apply here for varying reasons
so im kinda in the dark on night for now
ig theres an older tell i could try to use? but again, 47 player mash, probably wont apply as much here
Sounds like a legit read.
Mist Thoughts on first 47 Players
spoiled because i dont wanna take up too much space
- blizer - exactly rand. i’m not going to try to read him after rwby
- icibalus - lean villager. not confident after she snowed me in clown fiesta 2 but we can blame that on the fact that i was being dumb that game
- mistyx - lockwolf or terrible at mafia
- aelin - also rand
- kyodaz - dont remember a single post from
- intensify - wolfy. wasn’t villagery early on, hasn’t gotten better, made some pretty meh posts
- marshal - i’m going to let the people that are good at reading marshal do that i am not one of them
- marluxion - villagery, i think? feels different from rwby ig
- solic - had a villagery entrance, other posts are around meh. nulltown
- sulit - butter
- min - has been going back and forth but i think i’m at villagery rn
- pkr - villagery for him
- amelia - don’t remember a single post
- nightingale - villagery. a couple of her reads had more unique depth of thought that i know she has trouble replicating as scum, plus they generally read natural and not manufactured. this is not high confidence.
- vulgard - kinda villagery but im not anywhere near confident on this
- derps - derps
- lemon - don’t remember a single post
- tl - same as solic, weaker read
- wazza - was kinda meh early, not really certain her later posts were better?
- centuries - don’t remember a single post
- joker - same as tl and solic
- windward - reverse of tl/solic/joker, had one post i kinda liked but macro i’d say wolfy?
- italy - don’t remember posts
- cloned - also don’t remember posts
- arctic - also don’t remember
- whysper - noposter(?)
- silviu - noposter(?)
- tangeld - null, don’t think she’s anywhere near out of either range rn
- jane - villagery, had a kinda weak entrance but made a few posts that i thought were leaning towards out of wolfrange
- ghana - villagery. think he legit thought he was threadspewed earlier
- katze - joycat
- emilia - ehh? saw she was getting v read, not really sure why
- luxy - wolfy, i’ve been over this, don’t need to go over it again
- appel - macro wolfy, micro villagery. not sure which i’m weighing more rn
- eevee - made like 1 post then dipped
- ami - same as eevee(?)
- hippo - i mean i definitely remember his posts but i don’t have a read anyway
- frost - apparently “outside of wolf meta” but his posts are wolfy and i see no reason to believe he couldn’t post 50 times with a bunch of wolf partners who might know his meta telling him to post
- astand - don’t remember posts of
- gorta - being shielded by marshal, probably same alignment as her
- lukundo - slightly >rand w, haven’t seen him going full luk mode yet
- universal - noposter
- psyx - approx rand i think, have seen posts but they haven’t moved anything
- maxi - dont remember reading posts
- nutella - my top villager, think she’s been tonally out of w range + her posts have flowed well
- orange - dont have a good enough grasp of his meta to have anything but a nullread on him, none of his posts have stuck out as individually towny/wolfy
- FK - has been both villagery and wolfy at points, not sure i like how he’s handling the luxy check
Holy fuck on day 1, can I effort clear this…? Maybe not…
amelia - don’t remember a single post
derps - derps
centuries - don’t remember a single post
jane - villagery, had a kinda weak entrance but made a few posts that i thought were leaning towards out of wolfrange
tangeld - null, don’t think she’s anywhere near out of either range rn
hippo - i mean i definitely remember his posts but i don’t have a read anyway
astand - don’t remember posts of
- gorta - being shielded by marshal, probably same alignment as her
- lukundo - slightly >rand w, haven’t seen him going full luk mode yet
nutella - my top villager, think she’s been tonally out of w range + her posts have flowed well
Okay, so truthfully lots of flipped scum have posted very little or had much impact and this is early reads, but should probably read further just because of this. The lukundo shot was already build up here though.
/vote Lukundo
I lied this is a stronger wolfread than rand his posts actually suck
lukundo has made 114 posts, most of which are content posts , and has expressed like
four reads all game
he’s a wolf
Oh they went for it as well.
also
why did literally only one person acknowledge the wall I made giving reads on everyone in the game
relatable
this is probably a wolf post
dont ask me why its just the vibes
In response to Centuries
i think we should cfd lukundo
as a treat
/vote lukundo
no because you made over a hundred posts with 4 reads and none of the reads were good
I technically need to read Lukundo to verify if this was a genuine read, but I’m not going to, because I had a rough day, maybe note to future Solic
day 2:
also the cults are literally just hoods
night was the leader of one and i got invited to the other
I wish I had been in a hood. Although game was probably overpacked for me as it was.
i was stabbed by a glass killer and revived by a necromancer
also kat got shot at and saved last night
This probably will make Mist more prone to townread them later.
i think leafia is a good ITA shot because she has both 3p and wolf equity
but also if night died to wolves there’s likely a wolf cult leader in the game so?
we can kill both you and lol then
also did leafia slip that tan faction can kill
This specific observation is not “I need to invent some reasoning on why my partner is scum here to distance”, but more so “I’m paying attention and can see minute details and make the connections”
hard nope on this lol
she was my top v read d1
she was good tonally and had good reads / reactions
basically anyone who’s played with her says she has an obvious tonal difference as wolf and im pretty confident she’s v here
They stay consistent on their Nutella read at least.
/ITA The Lukundo
/ITA Hippoyeetus
hippo is super wolfy lol
I went 2/2 on ITAs I feel so good about myself
Congrats bud
i’m trending down on nutella i think
i kind of want to kill emilia
marl can also maybe be a wolf?
Nutella at least going down.
day 3
i was absolutely expecting to die whoops
I’m always a sucker that townreads these statements, although they are so easy to make.
nutella is my CL and gave me the extra ita
Ohhhh that explains a bias as well.
mmmm
so how did eli die then
through his BP
Why u atting me just tell me in neighbourhood
*masonry
Nooooooooooo you can’t just out us like that
does this not look super w/w
Oh right, this still exists.
no im just saying postcount is a bad tell
I should probably do Italy next
mm
conroy probably has the worst looking vote on tan
I think I read enough, I’m also good with Mist town.
i broke that literally my last wolfgame get off my back
I’m aware
i haven’t really performed any iso but i can feel that vul is not town
deep within my soul
I’m impressed how bad your village play is, must make it easier to wolf.
i can feel it
/vote Vulgard
Italy at least taking some initiative
i just want to know why my presence is constantly invalidated
people have actually forgotten i’m in games before
Your posts don’t contain much content. This at least makes me filter them.
mist made 13 posts and dipped
as time passes, this may look very good or very bad
Like… okay?
vulgard’s posts feel bad
especially where they snapped at marshal
i can’t think of any other way to put it
Okay, so Italy struggles to makes reads and their next few posts go into fluff.
Forgotten howling
A sad separated pack
Is all my hope lost?
LOST WOLF
that’s fair
in all 70 of my posts the amount of times i’ve been responded to by anyone can probably be counted on fingers
and they were all for memes
Hmm, maybe the increased responses to their posts give them some kind of validation making them more prone to meme’ing than delivering content. However that’s kind of scummy, because that means Italy is posting for sake of survival and nothing else.
name a town game and a wolf game of theirs and i can (probably) give you their alignment with good accuracy
Let’s see, did they ever follow up on this…
would anyone happen to know blizer’s most recent wolfgame
hi i’m back
blizer can swing either way but probably town
there’s two big holes in this (the lack of a wolfgame to go off of and the very fucking game we’re playing) but blizer seemed a lot more laid back here than in RWBY which was a bad look but suddenly sobered up something three hours ago
They did! I’m positively surprised and should probably verify the read, but I’m aching to play Luigi’s Mansion, so I’m probably just going to finish the ISO and dip
I’m impressed how bad your village play is, must make it easier to wolf.
this one single post vulgard made was like falling down a staircase.
i refuse to believe this line was a joke
many jokes can be made and you can’t exactly infer tone through text
but you cannot just tack “joke” onto something and immediately invalidate its entire existence
except me
it’s funny when they’re clearly sarcastic
Okay, some shade on Vulgard noted.
if solic was wolf he’d know the boost was fake
Okay, that’s a thought.
/ITA MaximusPrime @FoLAnnualMash
Completely unprompted.
i don’t have any blizer wolf games to go off on and his d1 felt not good:tm: but he suddenly sobered up out of nowhere and started sounding just like his town game
At least they are keeping tabs on Blizer.
i wouldn’t expect tan to spew easily but you could go the other way and see who’s trying to protect her
Let’s stop trying to figure out who Tan’s partner is and focus fully on the wolves. We don’t need Tan’s partner dead but we do need the wolves dead to win. In fact, Tan and her partner can even win with town so trying to find and kill them is just -ev and antitown because it makes it less likely that they’ll help the town.
sounds like something the imperial would say
Okay, this feels slightly unburdened by TMI. Mild good points for Italy.
thoughts
one of orange/kat/uni/gghana (lol’s shooters) are wolves
likely not more than one wolf but i doubt no wolves jumped on lol
not as much to go off on for lukundo though, since mist delivered a proper one shot/one kill
lol’s standing, socially and mechanically, was extremely weak
Okay… that’s some critical thinking, which did occur to me too in day 2. That’s a better look.
and also shot at Maxi (recently) who flipped town yet nobody is paying attention to this and letting them slip by because they’re posting
i shot straight into consensus poe, just like 8 other people
how is what i did worse than them when all i did was get a lucky roll
Okay, so they shot only, because of shot list is the claim.
cold take
/vote Universal
one of the shots on lol probably came from a wolf (exactly one, the pool is quite small) and uni is the most likely
Oh I shot at the mafia
also this post.
This was prompted by Mist taking out that post, so they didn’t really start this push, simply joined it.
i can’t feel anything tbh
there was the momentary rush when i saw what was dead and then i felt pretty normal.
I could believe that.
day 3
uni is a real confusing slot tbh
any objections to shooting them?
/ITA Universal @FoLAnnualMash
if one more top poe player flips town the poe probably needs thought
day 4
threadstate bad tbh
lol - doomed slot
lukundo - doomed slot
amelia - soon to be doomed slot & boatsed
hippo - boatsed
leafia - doomed slot and & boatsed
eli - killed by unknown means
nutella - doomed slot
They were really sure on Orange/Kat/Uni/Ghana to be scum just for shooting Lol and expecting a busser. After Uni is dead they continue to push this narrative later on
ngl kat your reactions to my sudden push have been sketchy as hell
katze:this is seriously starting to sound like agenda italy
kat basically drops a “this sounds like wolf motivation” and then completely fucking leaves it to die like it had no other purpose than to intimidate me
kat’s sudden reactions to the push have basically been trying to shake wolf readers off
like suddenly flipping to jane without any warning feels like an attempt to shake off wolfreaders
i might be biased but fucking hell i will ride this to the end
this is no longer village idiotaly talking
i have gone full gamer
kat’s sudden actions feel like trying to shake off a wagon by distracting the pushers
i can fucking taste the deepwolf
first it was that threadstate felt very wrong (all dead wolves completely doomed or boatsed)
then too many town started dropping at once
poe felt bad
(plus the only pushers on kat seem to have mysteriously died )
but kat’s reaction to the push felt absolutely terrible and now i am out for blood
katze:/vote Jane
kat snaps to jane with absolutely zero warning
feels like trying to shake people off by stirring up a new wagon katze:this is seriously starting to sound like agenda italy
all i can taste from this is trying to intimidate me off kat
kat’s response is that they were annoyed and emotional because they were being pushed on by mighty super villager italy
i want to shoot kat
but i’m also paranoid it might flip town
why am i getting cold feet now
Okay, Italy has come online.
if i was a wolf i’d be coasting so hard rn despite having caused the deaths of like
three different villagers
and having hard pushed another
Hmm Would they highlight this in such a bad situation as scum?
/ITA Emilia
wait what happened to conroy/solic w/v
actually solic has 25 posts that’s the exaggerated wim drop of someone who got boatsed
Okay Italy has gone significantly more active now at least. Also my post count is heavily related to if it’s the weekend or not and my posts are very dense anyways.
can we just cfd to gorta
i still think solic is today’s lunch
/vote solic
/vote gorta
you’re at l-2
die, scum
Hmm, they didn’t resist the Gorta push.
then you’re wolf for not eating solic with me
This is really unsettling.
I have more reads in my first posts than Italy in their entire ISO, but somehow this slot is town locked. Why? I know Italy is not the type to do a lot of reads anyways, but this is squarely left in null/light townlean for me. Definitely under Mist and Blizer at least.
Italy is a villager
even without any meta shit Italy is obviously a villager
my king
This is where I would come in and ITA Kat if I had less self-control
There is no ITAs
V-clear
Havent read much this is what I scrambled
V
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Appel- Didnt know about ITAs
Arctice- feels solvey
Nightgale- same as arcticwl
LF- appeared into thread and disappeared. Will relook this depending on the reason they give.
Intensify- Tryharded early, but still tried to use early game as excuse for being read as W.W
Min- Game start was really wolfy. It fits usual playstyle of existing, but not meaningfully interacting with the thread or solving which is common pattern in wolves early game.
Not really very original reasons, except for Appel, which is kind of ???. The effort fits with not having much time in a big mash probably.
The fact that nobody on vul wagon can explain how vul is wolfy makes me think its bs
I like this post.
Nooooooooooo you can’t just out us like that
I dislike these posts.
At this point he’s in my townreads for the sole reason he claimed cop with n0 on luxy and if he is he’s going to die to anticlaim. If he isn’t then him being alive should be enough of an indicator he might not be town.
Claim is obv fake. Town!FK would never just claim their real role D1.
Eeh, Firekitten got claimvigged though, will need to reread how that ability works to see if this is any kind of clearing. Firekitten did reiterate their peek a lot of times through their posts, so that could have changed their mind, but it’s mild good points.
Also, if you ITA someone who does that to a wolf, I will deathtunnel you
I will, cuz otherwise ppl will continue trying to heroshoot which will hurt town
This interaction felt super fake though. Mostly from Lukundo’s side though…
/vote tangeld
This just seems like a better wagon out of the 2 main ones
Noted.
day 2
I am ITAing anyone who hero shoots lol
Halp, I don’t know if they are referring to the player lol.
casual reminder that Maxi and astand were super partnery tbh
thats usually W/V or V/V on this site. I rarely see wolves buddying with each others unless the meta changed.
oh right he was lol
Hmmmmmm… very very mild town points for not knowing Astand flipped scum potentially
Whats the case for amelia again?
she got red checked
by who
Hot take: nut
What did he mean by this?
Ouch fairly bad soft defending.
Gonna ITA ici
Why? They’re the main wagon rn.
meh
ITA uni
why is leafia and hippo red?
Eeehhhhh is this real or attempting to derpclear themselves… They had some times in the thread, where they caught up others with the thread, so they are not entirely unengaged all the time.
NOOOOO you can’t just fail my heroshot like that!
All right, this does read as genuine and they were scumreading Min on day 1.
can someome explaim whysper wagon
Why is Marl a wagon now?
And I guess what I called soft defending earlier, is the same way they soft defend these town slots at least.
ITA orange
reason: unable to substantiate his wolfreads
wait are itas not active yet
They have been playing the unaware card a bit much though jeez.
Barcode was neut and was just trolling by shooting luxy
omegalul
wait I am dumb, nutella was just the controller
Like again.
Centuries? I really haven’t done reading in a while.
When being asked about their PoE, I guess this is decent.
Also I don’t think appel is wolf. That shot doesn’t really make much sense from wolf prespective.
Facts though
more leaning orange cuz that appel lynch was mega bad
orangeandblack5:I think wolf would be more likely to do that, leave thread, not return until they missed and solic missed them, and then make up some bs reasoning they’d never act on
I am not buying that you unironically think that sacrificing slot for 10% ITA or sacrificing slot, because you insulted their pet is something wolf would do.
/ita orange
consistency is there at least
Also I no acted every night. Saying so that there is no confusion after my flip.
Ohh curious
Hmmm verdict on Emilia, is townier than Italy.
But why?
there is no way in hell that push on katze comes from scum
you can see the flowing thought from a to b
you can feel the momentum increase as Italy gets tunneled
Hmmm verdict on Emilia, is townier than Italy.
I’m going to say this is objectively incorrect even though it isn’t because I can’t think of a better way to describe how wrong I think you are