Throne of Lies FM - Game Over (Mafia and Ritualist WIn)- 5/16

[Italy]

Arete what is this white knightery

[Arete]

I don’t know your alignment and frankly it’s not super relevant to my read here

[sulit]

Towncore
Arete
Eevee
Derps
Possessed

Townlean
Darth
Ami
Wazza

Weird/Null
Zone
Squid
Emilia

Scrum
N.1
Italy

Scumread
Mist

[Ami]

wow
am i that forgettable

[sulit]

@sulit

Emi

[Italy]

N1, your reasoning is definitely sound but you should keep in mind that my BotC and my FM playstyles are different.

[Arete]

I’m not convinced that bad reads are scum-AI for N but spending like 12 hours on an analysis to come out with ‘idk I guess they have some low-effort posts. so maybe scum. but they could also be town.’ definitely is

[Ami]

who’s Emi

[Arete]

you’re Emi on the player list for some reason

[sulit]

The name in the OP

[N.1]

i just spent 5 hours looking over italy’s ISO.
I’m more time cramped currently than I’ve been in a game with you in a long time and I haven’t played in a forum mafia game (discounting BotF, which I don’t really consider FM) in about 3 months

[sulit]

Are you happy now

[sulit]

POE:

Squid
Emilia
N.1
Mist
Italy

Probably someone lurking in my townreads

[Arete]

@N.1

i just spent 5 hours looking over italy’s ISO.

I don’t believe that town!you spends five hours looking over his Iso and comes up with about a paragraph of actual analysis that doesn’t actually say anything

[Italy]

arete can confirm that my playstyle in BotC and FM are very different

[Italy]

sulit, give me your position as top poster!

[sulit]

No, mine.

[sulit]

/vote n.1

[N.1]

ok most of it was me trying to copy the ISO’s like i did in Marson. It was so much of a slog that I gave up and just started skimming the rest. Below is what I got through:

Italy Deus Ex 3 ISO, 275 posts, he was evil NSF and won

@Italy

“N0: Some unknown charred bodies” Perfect.

/in

@Italy

turquoises in syndicate

@Italy

I use my day ability to silence everyone else for the remainder of today.

@Italy

F o o l i s h m o r t a l

unsheathes pizza cutter

@Italy

Uncool. Those are my people.

@Italy

Editing reeee

@Italy

If the x-files theme doesn’t play when a member of illuminati dies, i’ll be angry

@Italy

I just got here.

@Italy

If you’re townvig, this is probably their Lastday.

@Italy

I’m NK UNATCO

@Italy

:hypereyes:

@Italy

Only 12 more potential evils.

@Italy

I shall snap my fingers, and half of all players will die.

Wait no not m-

@Italy

/Vote Italy Something feels off.

@Italy

yes i think

@Italy

well it seems like with all those people voting lastday, today is his Last Day.

@Italy

I never said that. And I never promised to read ree

@Italy

UNATCO killer?

@Italy

I caught something!

@Italy

Frostwolf lockscum.

@Italy

I’m seeing progression on the idea of lastday being a LHF.

@Italy

I express little concern for things i’m not part of

@Italy

What level am I

@Italy

Today is chaos, and that’s why i’m going to fade into the background until called upon.

@Italy

Clearly, the past 3 games haven’t told you that I don’t read

@Italy

I have read the thread and there’s nothing to go off of.

@Italy

Arete was in CoC I think.

@Italy

Does the game have an NK?

@Italy

Fake townslip

Real town

Well which one is it?

@Italy

Illuminati worships mithras confirmed?

@Italy

I’m UNATCO, I never lie.

@Italy

What is angleshooting?

@Italy

No really, what is angleshooting?

@Italy

hja didn’t wallpost, lockscum

@Italy

There’s not even a D1 mechanical ability to locktown someone…except for knowing they aren’t your scumpartner

@Italy

I don’t even know what that means!

@Italy

Italy is a member of the UNATCO and never tells lies and knows all so you should trust

everything he says

@Italy

If I see the opportunity to create meme, i create meme.

@Italy

@Italy

myself lmao

@Italy

School wifi is designed to block sites like FoL, lockscum

@Italy

schools have to allow sites for you to use them

@Italy

You gave me info to work on, I used it, how is that angle shooting reeee

@Italy

so i have info to call you out on a lie but can’t use it because angleshooting

nice rule

@Italy

A n g e r y

@Italy

still gonna /vote Tele though

@Italy

Yeah, there’s a FoL app for mobile. I have it.

@Italy

I could check to see if tele is lying right here and now, but apparently that’s angleshooting >:(

@Italy

also the app is called tol instead of fol for some reason

@Italy

it gave me the option when i opened it on chrome to download it

@Italy

I literally just have an app named “tol” with the i42 logo that opens fol for me

@Italy

I didn’t say I never make reads. I think.

I just don’t like making reads. Too much effort, too much reading between the lines, and not to mention it’s better to use game changing info when it’ll guarantee the scum gets lynched, not at a time that lets them change their info.

@Italy

Trust in your gut and pray to the heavens .

You shouldn’t be asking a gambler for this kind of advice.

@Italy

Yes, if this 6 sided die rolls a 7, you win. Otherwise, I win.

@Italy

Something.

@Italy

internet cut out, i’m back

@Italy

Tele reeee

@Italy

I have an app that literally just opens FoL for me. It gave me the option to installed when I had FoL open on chrome mobile.

@Italy

If I remember correctly, Low Hanging Fruit, townie that looks like not-townie

@Italy

I don’t have that reee

@Italy

I don’t have the discourse app. I have a “tol” app on mobile that opens FoL for me.

@Italy

HRMMMMMMMmmmm

@Italy

villager noises

@Italy

It’s not chrome when I open it, it’s FoL on a phone >:(

@Italy

Said UNATCO wrong, lockscum

@Italy

chrome master race

@Italy

I think at least 2 people are town.

@Italy

how dare you fall asleep, lockscum reee

@Italy

hides in background with 30 tabs on chrome

@Italy

Before: UNATCO vs NSF vs Illuminati

After: Chrome vs Mozilla Firefox

@Italy

Literally everyone who uses light theme and/or mozilla is lockscum. No exceptions >:(

@Italy

nullread intensifies

@Italy

Lockscum intensifies

@Italy

holy shit is that a motherfucking jojo reference

@Italy

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@Italy

Aren’t desperados bad guys?

@Italy

Just a better townvig?

@Italy

i sleep now

@Italy

God damn it frost…

@Italy

angry italian noises

@Italy

No.

@Italy

Tell me why you joined the illuminati.

@Italy

Italy is all knowing.

@Italy

I stabbed Hja last night.

@Italy

because h e c k u

@Italy

hecking cultist with your…CONVERTS…and KILLPOWER >:(

@Italy

but seriously frost, you made me flip evil and then revived me, what the hecc

@Italy

How am I supposed to know? Rolelist is closed.

@Italy

Did you just call me james?

@Italy

S t i l l a n g e r y

@Italy

Be Italy

Be NSF Leader

Die

Don’t actually die

Get revived after flipping NSF leader

What the actual fu-

@Italy

Now i’m being ignored >:(

@Italy

I have no fucking clue.

@Italy

Theydidn’tfuckingdie

@Italy

I have obtained donuts, am now less stressed. Ask me anything.

@Italy

Ask me anything reasonable.

@Italy

Hja

@BlueStorm

Illum /in ati

Nuff said.

@Italy

Changing the subject is something an evil would do

@Italy

yes, shoo, don’t put your hands on me >:(

@Italy

Doooo ittttttt

@Italy

istabbedthemandtheyDIDN’TFUCKINGDIEREEEEEEEEE

@Italy

I wonder why you’d deny the thing saying you’re scum. HMMMMM

@Italy

Nobody’s claimed to have protected you, you absolute…uh…CHICKEN NUGGET!

@Italy

Because NSF doesn’t convert?

@Italy

Because if you hang isaac and he’s the illuminati converter, a new player will take his place. By RBing him instead, you block conversions.

@Italy

Wait fuck

@Italy

Hey, hey, who wants to see a magic trick.

@Italy

FOR WAKANDA /vote Italy

@Frostwolf103

@Italy

Multiball and triple threat are two different things wazza.

@Italy

Vigilante does the exact same thing. He suicides the night after killing a town.

@Italy

hello

@Italy

Claim good

@Italy

S e a t b e l t s e v e r y o n e

@Italy

just let me die

@Italy

Just let me die!

@Italy

I hate how accurate this is.

@Italy

Pressure more people to vote me

@Italy

Geyde, vote me!

@Italy

Reeeee

@Italy

JJBA Golden Wind - Gold Experience Requiem! [HD]

Frostwolf right now.

@Italy

also part 5 spoilers

@Italy

Vote me :reee:

@Italy

E n d m y s u f f e r i n g

@Italy

Just let me DIE!

@Italy

No amount of donuts can cure the amount of pain I currently feel.

@Italy

Technically that’d kill me before I could eat that many, so i guess you have a point

@Italy

Kill me!

@Italy

One does not simply frame and stab at the same time.

@Italy

just let me DIE

@Italy

I feel like replacing out would be a dick move to whoever would end up taking my slot, but I also don’t like being here because i got outed D2 to a moderror

@Italy

Seeker intensifies

@Italy

if you can really do that, shouldn’t you be tracking the obvious illuminati anyways

@Italy

anger

@Italy

S e e k e r

@Italy

Y e s

@Italy

The person with the bomb.

@Italy

permission to use mind control to wipe everyone’s memories of me ever flipping NSF Leader?

@Italy

I even managed to make it into townreads. F for my progress.

@Italy

Then how is he going to shoot hja?

@Italy

Like I said, hja survived my attack so I couldn’t have framed them, I have no reason to lie.

@Italy

Oh boy, do I finally get to die?

KILL ME

@Italy

I got outed to a moderror, you could at least be nice enough to waste the rest of your day for me >:(

@Italy

I never needed the approval of cultists anyways.

@Italy

Or people who shoot confirmed town. Yes, you know what i’m talking about.

@Italy

I found a cult! You shot me for finding cult!

@Italy

That’s number three. I don’t answer questions like that.

@Italy

you people are impossible to talk to, you treat every little thing i say like a scumslip

@Italy

Dat’s in deadchat, yeah.

@Italy

Graveyard’s actually an okay place.

@Italy

No, there was no info. I just know dat’s dead.

@Italy

okay :<

@Italy

Derp* heck

@Italy

gonna stop before i get modkilled

@Italy

I’ll take questions that aren’t stupid, are reasonable, and actually have something to do with this chat.

@Italy

I died, flipped NSF leader and got revived because of a moderror.

@Italy

And then I got hanged, flipped NSF leader and got revived because of a moderror.

@Italy

…nooooo…

@Italy

no comment

@Italy

being revived hurts

@Italy

imagine getting shot in the head, and waking up with a wound that you can feel, but can’t even die to

@Italy

M e

oh wait

@Italy

chat dead

@Italy

I confirmed that you survived a nightkill. How is that in any way good for you, if nobody is claiming to have protected you

@Italy

Also, metabending is very easy.

@Italy

Oh, hell no. I sandbag evils as evil all the time. Consider it baptism by fire. Kill half your allies, so the other half are “confirmed town”

@Italy

How does that confirm you as town in a multiball game. I need to know

@Italy

The fact you claim to be conf town because i’m claiming you survived a nightkill.

@Italy

• in no world would that confirm you as town, they could consider this to be distancing so you won’t be suspected

• It’s a multiball game ffs

• It’s so easy to bend a meta to your will. How many of you actually thought I was scum before the…ahemm…thing happened

@Italy

If you use “i’m in my meta” as a defense, I won’t trust you. Just a heads up for future games. Especially if you think being in “town meta” makes you conf town. It’s beyond easy to use your town meta as scum, even if it sandbags you.

@Italy

You have proven literally nothing.

@Italy

I can neither confirm nor deny this question.

@Italy

I literally just said this. You are not confirmed town just because you are “in your town meta”. It is easy to fake thoughts and metas, and there’s nothing truly trustworthy about that. You could be anything, it’s just that NSF is the least likely. I do sandbag my teammates if I want to. That’s just how I play the game, because sandbagging ensures that you and sometimes even your buddies get more towncred. You have provided nothing but useless things, and claim that confirms you.

@Italy

Have I made myself clear yet?

@Italy

Metareading is going to become obsolete, and I will make it so. Have you ever noticed a difference between my scum and my town games?

@Italy

inb4 hja says “how would you know their abilities are limited use”

@Italy

Relying on the rule system is one of the things I see scum do a lot.

@Italy

Your in ability to metaread me makes it clear that metas are quite easy to switch up. You can even sync your evil & town metas with eachother.

@Italy

Again, the fact that you cannot metaread me proves that it’s a simple thing to sync metas, or even change things up at random so town “conftown” you one game when you’re evil.

@Italy

So then dat shot himself. True madlad.

@Italy

Okay, let me run this by you one more time.

You cannot metaread me.

This proves that it is possible to sync metas.

I am capable of switching up and even syncing my town/scum meta so that it becomes impossible to tell what I am purely by meta. This makes “in my town meta, conftown” a failure of an argument

@Italy

is your argument literally now “How can you prove that i CAN do it?”

@Italy

literally nobody has metaread me, have you seen a single metaread on D1 against me

@Italy

Kyo.

@Italy

@Italy

For you, D2 counts. There wasn’t much of a D2 metareading possibility for me.

@Italy

I was outed at the start of D2, you weren’t. D1 counts for me, D1 and D2 count for you

@Italy

I have no reason to help town, but I don’t have much of a reason to help illuminati either. Why would I pick illuminati over town when town have almost no KP, and no convert power?

@Italy

Town are the weaker threat, therefore I will choose to help them crush the other scumfaction.

@Italy

I +1 this.

@Italy

Literally the only thing you’ve had going for you is “I’M CONFIRMED TOWNIE BECAUSE META” and i’ve already proven why that’s invalid.

@Italy

Nobody has metaread me. Because I synced them. There is no meta to read. Therefore, there is no real “town meta so confirmed town” in FoL.

@Italy

How does this not make sense?

I can sync my meta.

This makes it incredibly hard to read.

Not impossible, but it would be very hard.

My ability to sync up my metas proves that there is no such thing as a conftown meta, because it doesn’t matter how inexperienced you are, it’s a simple thing to do.

@Italy

Yes, exactly. You are aware that you are in your “self town meta”

This means you could very easily be faking it.

@Italy

Yes, it is irrelevant if you are aware of it. Now you’re getting it!

@Italy

What do you mean “it did still work”

Are you saying it convinced them that you were town? That literally proves nothing.

@Italy

Being able to fake your town meta proves it.

@Italy

Two times, perhaps? Maybe if you did it right now, we’d be able to prove this.

OH, WAIT

@Italy

Hja isn’t claiming, knowing they’ll be vigged for it. And says kyo is throwing because of it

@Italy

I’m Italy and I still approve of this message.

@Italy

I neither confirmed nor denied a stonewall ability.

@Italy

Your only reason has been “Self-Meta Conftown” and poorly made excuses like “how can you prove that i AM capable of faking metas?”

@KyoDaz

Self-meta does not help you as you are aware of it.

Italy:

How does this not make sense?

I can sync my meta.

This makes it incredibly hard to read.

Not impossible, but it would be very hard.

My ability to sync up my metas proves that there is no such thing as a conftown meta, because it doesn’t matter how inexperienced you are, it’s a simple thing to do.

KyoDaz:

Petitions to keep Italy alive who?

this one isn’t related but i still approve of this message

KyoDaz:

That’s self meta which does not help you Hja.

KyoDaz:

The how would you survive an attack?

i can’t be bothered to actually read deep into what’s already happened, is this good enough

@Italy

You being aware of your self-meta is what nulls the argument. You can fake it if you’re fully aware of it.

@Italy

If you were always aware of your townmeta, you would follow it as much as possible, town or scum.

@Italy

The fact that you just admitted that you’d do it as town or scum if you were aware of it just proved my point.

@Italy

And you have proof of this?

@Italy

i can’t be bothered to check, is she lying or not

@Italy

Can you specify how suicide works for your class, kyo?

@Italy

So then if Hja is town, and healed, Kyo will suicide.

If hja is protected, kyo will (probably) shoot the defender and both die.

If hja is just town, they both die.

Hja, just claim. If you really are town, only town could die in this scenario.

@Italy

There isn’t a claimvig. Stop being a wuss.

@Italy

Then why is claiming some unspeakable taboo to you, even when it’s the only thing that’ll prevent someone from getting shot at?

@Italy

Also, I NEVER ASKED TO BE OUTED, MA

@Italy

You treat it like one.

@Italy

Unless mayor is outed

@Italy

A townread isn’t enough for them to attempt to throw their life away. Especially since they know they are 100% without a doubt town, and they are only town reading the player.

@Italy

“I am town protective. I can see my own role, so I know I am town. This person appears to be town to me, but I will not throw my life away to save theirs because they are not mechanically confirmed to be town, and they are not claiming important town.”

@Italy

If kyo is a townvig, then we can consider town prot to be a bodyguard, who will die protecting you.

@Italy

If what kyo is saying is exact, he will still guilt suicide if the prot is a doctor.

@Italy

It’s a possibility, as per the class-we-shall-not-name

@Italy

Again, as per the class we shall not name, there is no specification saying they won’t guilt suicide if they are healed.

@Italy

Your arguments are now “I already answered that”

@Italy

You to give us an answer that actually makes sense?

@Italy

Your argument to why you can’t be faking metas is that you aren’t capable of it.

@Italy

i’ve just been watching at this point, should i maybe go grab some popcorn…?

@Italy

i don’t lmao

@Italy

I’m at L-3 now, I think.

@Italy

I did try to L-0 myself earlier, but made a slight miscalculation and people started unvoting. After the moderror, in which I was revived immediately a second time. Fuck that hurt.

@Italy

also /Unvote

@Italy

Hja hasn’t made sufficiently dumb plays for me to consider it a town meta. She’s yet to shoot a confirmed invest.

@Italy

A neat little trick. Tune out the scum mindset. Think of the game like an actual townie. I do that a lot. Totally voluntarily, I don’t forget i’m evil or anything.

@Italy

Beep beep

@Italy

Are we not allowed to make fake car noises anymore

@Italy

Lastday cometh before the death

@Italy

Probably me or isaac.

@Italy

Magnus is somehow convinced I can’t be scum and kyo thinks i’m better to keep alive right now.

@Italy

Me? Dead? I’d never…unless I was instantly brought back

@Italy

i have died twice now. Existence is pain.

@Italy

Bold statements considering they’re both calling for me to not be killed

@Italy

or maybe they’ve come to the conclusion that italy just can’t fucking die for some reason

@Italy

@Italy

How many sides?

@Italy

2 & 5

@Italy

so says our mighty overlords

@Italy

how do you turn on google dark theme pls

@Italy

Incorrect, we still have those unknown charred bodies.

@Italy

Be Italy

Die

Be revived

Die again

Be revived again

You will never reach the truth

@Italy

I actually just realized something

@Italy

Named Italy

Vento Aureo took place in italy

Had everything planned out perfectly

Revealed as the big bad

Die

Revived

Die

Revived

I’m diavolo

@Italy

i’m ACTUALLY diavolo

@Italy

The Italy

Will never reach the truth - If killed, you will be revived minutes later, and if it was an execution, the day will continue. - Passive

Wincondition - Reach the truth (Die for reals)

@Italy

Basically, yeah. And someone thinks i’d be better off alive, while another thinks i can’t be NSF.

I mean, i’m not gonna complain about people attempting to negotiate my survival

@Italy

by this point, thinking i literally can’t die would be a valid belief

@Italy

…can i die?

@Italy

Italy attempts to take his own life, but instead wakes up minutes later, with a disappointed look on his face.

@Italy

No.

@Italy

Nobody is here except you, yourself and that plant sticking through the crack in the floor.

@Italy

You people sure are bold, aren’t you?

@Italy

/vote Italy

I did already try this once.

@Italy

can you just let me die

@Italy

/unvote

@Italy

Kyo didn’t unvote me

@Italy

then the petition is meaningless ree

@Italy

foolish mortals, i cannot die

@Italy

but /vote Italy for real this time

end my suffering

@Italy

I personally thought distancing with tele so intensely was smart.

I definitely DID NOT genuinely forget I was evil & on a scumteam with tele

@Italy

I was expecting more people to ram theirselves into hja. And also sooner.

@Italy

Not gonna lie, kyo was a bit easy to manipulate.

@Italy

We had the OP bonus and my one time death immunity wasn’t one shot. I would’ve enjoyed myself.

@Italy

didn’t you hammer in lylo

@Italy

Me failing to get the joke is the joke

@Italy

Because I knew people would dance along due to my plays from NFoL, when I got outed, my first idea was to start manipulating and making lies.

@Italy

Assuming I could be dead for more than 5 minutes was your biggest mistake.

@Italy

Anyways, we got the cure to the Gray Death. Good going us.

Italy BotF: TB ISO, 865 posts, he was good and won

@Italy

I hope i’m not the only one who can tell these are decoy whispers.

@Italy

eevee is clearly trying to cover up their actual targets

of course, this being BotC, this could easily just be a town who has info that confirms people

@Italy

Reddit?

Marshal confirmed demon. Either in a literal sense, or in a game sense. Probably the former.

@Italy

Chat sure is moving slow for a FoL game.

@Italy

3 hours and not even 100 posts yet

This is gonna move real slowly, isn’t it?

@Italy

what if you stop going at eachother’s throats because we could use some valid info

@Italy

Tan leaking script

nominates tan

@Italy

i couldn’t care less about what’s going on because i know that the way this is playing out, i will inevitably thunderdome the demon on the very last day

@Italy

Since you can nominate the ST although it’s a pretty bad idea for obvious reasons , does that mean you can nom priestess?

@Italy

Eevee, master of the quiet winds

@Italy

oh, in case nobody told you, you can nominate the storyteller, but if there’s no atheist in play (and atheist isn’t a character that exists yet) evil wins

@Italy

Just note that arete and I might act a bit different in BotC

@Italy

i’m considerably more memey because there’s more room to meme around but i’m also actually helpful late game

@Italy

The Ben Shapiro

Blue Dragon Suppocinvestilleffensipecial

@Italy

Is kyo expressing the idea of hanging me?

@Italy

bold words

@Italy

Arete has a valid reason

@Italy

Alright, i’d like some proof that makes me confirmed “evil”

@Italy

hung would be past tense, it’s hanging

@Italy

proof or not valid eevee

@Italy

Literally not even confirmed minion.

@Italy

Proof or invalid.

@Italy

Whoever claims i’m evil, because I ain’t recluse.

@Italy

Who checked me? Was it a fortuneteller?

@Italy

Would you prefer I actually just said it eevee? Words you wouldn’t like to hear? I can claim in public. Right now.

@Italy

I am the ravenkeeper. I claimed monk because it’s a role that demon would really want dead.

Thanks for ruining it.

@Italy

Nominations aren’t actual trials.

@Italy

That’s not really a thunderdome. I just said i’m not monk you nut.

@Italy

Ravenkeeper can receive a player’s EXACT class when killed at night.

Monk is a class that demon wants dead because they can prevent people from dying to demon at night.

Do math.

@Italy

So if you passed on info, and the demon heard it, they’d try to kill me.

@Italy

My plan’s ruined now, thanks.

@Italy

You wouldn’t. But maybe you’d pass info about someone being Monk.

@Italy

The goal wasn’t for people to not know I was ravenkeeper. It was for demon to attack me thinking I was monk.

@Italy

People are better liars when they think it’s the truth and i definitely didn’t just not think of that god damn it me

@Italy

I’m not evil.

@Italy

if you lynch me i’m going to be so disappointed in all of you

@Italy

/hand down Italy

Also yes you can vote to execute yourself

@Italy

people are better liars if they think what they’re saying is the truth

i definitely didn’t not think of that and immediately think “hey i should lie obviously”

@Italy

Heyyouwannaseeamagictrick?

@Italy

/Nominate Marshal >:(

@Italy

I was insisting to swap roles. Evils don’t do that, because that’s dumb. And if I was evil, Arete has to be my scumbuddy, because i wouldn’t be so quick on the draw without at least knowing my bluffs.

@Italy

Marshal looks evil because he nommed me

@Italy

Another fun fact, you can’t quickhammer in BotC

@Italy

If I was minion, I wouldn’t be so fast to swap roles unless I had bluffs. This would be impossible if I didn’t have neighboring scum, because I never sent or received whispers outside my neighbors. I also wouldn’t soft if I was ravenkeeper because being caught as the ravenkeeper is kinda bad

@Italy

Inb4 atheist is in play and marshal is right

@Italy

I have already said that I don’t like people in my head. I’m not going to drop information if I don’t want you to know it.

@Italy

/hands up Marshal BEEP BEEP

@Italy

Gonna hands up marshal but you won’t hands down me cri

@Italy

You said you have a undertaker?

I’m genuinely going to laugh, and I will NEVER let you live it down when they out that i’m the ravenkeeper

@Italy

Why don’t you tell us what role found me as “minion”

If arete just so happened to tell me the bluffs, I wouldn’t need to know what is in play anyways.

@Italy

Hold on wha-

@Italy

Counter claim’s disproven. Move on.

@Italy

Eevee. I’m not kidding when I say i’m never going to let you live it down. Just saying.

@Italy

I can tell you for sure that arete 100% trusted me.

Poor child never saw the betrayal coming

@Italy

When undertaker confirms me as Ravenkeeper. I will NEVER let ANY of you who hands upped me live it down. NEVER.

@Italy

Unless you’re evil because that’s kinda your job

@Italy

Are you calling me dumb?

@Italy

I’m going to point this out just because i can.

Eevee claims to be confirmed.

There are 4 evils in this game. 3 minions and the Demon, as confirmed by the script.

Eevee’s claim is not only not 100% mechanically confirmed, but eevee is also pushing too hard with info that can VERY easily be false.

pulls out calculator

poisoner…chances of being drunk…the probability that they’re evil because it’s a flipless game

i can’t be bothered to do all this math

@Italy

My point is, there’s no such thing as mechanical confirmation. Don’t assume anything.

@Italy

I’m even more offended that you think i’m stupid.

@Italy

Arete pointed out that Monk can prevent starpasses. If you’re so convinced that a monk exists, you don’t even have to worry about that.

@Italy

I can actually tell you’re the one who is claiming the redcheck on me because of how aggressive you are about it, marshal.

@Italy

Shutupandletmefeelsmart

@Italy

If I was evil here, I would actually be flipping tables.

@Italy

You can look at literally any scum game i’ve ever played.

@Italy

Which number two.

@Italy

And am I doing that now?

@Italy

I’d just be really angry because this would be the third game in a row i died before N2 on

@Italy

hearing people actively discarding parts of stories and probabilities (y’know, like you’re doing right now, discarding every probability that doesn’t somehow loop into “Italy and arete are evil”) is the most stressful thing that ever happens to me in text games

and you are not helping

@Italy

i was aiming more towards marshal and eevee

@Italy

If i’m the Demon, may the Slayer strike me down where I stand!

@Italy

Marshal feels a lot like he’s powerwolfing. Eevee is a bit mixed for me. Has a pretty town mindset, was quick on the draw, but isn’t entirely confirmed because evils can very much number more than 2.

@Italy

I was honestly expecting a joke statement about me getting shot

@Italy

God strikes frieza

@Italy

If you want me to be 100% honest. I didn’t think of it.

@Italy

Let’s be 100% honest here and do quick math.

I claimed and got counterclaimed. This removes the possibility that I am the imp because i’m not fucking stupid.

If arete is evil and passed bluffs to me, this leaves one situation where I would claim a class in play. If I was baron

Executing the Baron, a role that has zero abilities and basically does as much good alive as dead is only slightly better than if I end up being the ravenkeeper. Which I am.

Killing me is reasonless no matter how you look at it.

@Italy

If I was outed as scum, I would start launching ungodly amounts of antispew and spew alike, so you couldn’t even filter out which ones were right and wrong and would inevitably fail somewhere.

@Italy

Considering arete said they thought I was evil, i’m now wondering if they lied to me

@Italy

Eeeve.eevxe has stoped working

@Italy

Also atheist and heretic literally don’t even exist yet

@Italy

eevee is actually the SW and we’re trying to bus circle so one of us are confirmed

that’s a fair point

@Italy

I’d prefer we execute priestess actually

@Italy

Actually, since we have two storytellers, are we doing Good Twin Evil Twin?

@Italy

Wha-

@Italy

Marshal, because he really looks like he’s powerwolfing here.

@Italy

Can you hands me down now

@Italy

Tan stop naming characters that haven’t been added to the game yet smh.

@Italy

…I’m the psychopath and I dayvig eevee, tan

@Italy

I knew we were doing Good Twin Evil Twin! nominates priestess

@Italy

Okay, anyways. Marshal doesn’t feel very town. He feels like he’s VERY aggressively powerwolfing.

@Italy

This is true. The game is an automatic evil win if the ST is executed.

…Does this mean tan was a Saint in her previous life?

@Italy

Neither exist

@Italy

…Did eevee just change their name in the last 10 seconds?

@Italy

If it was a thunderdome, I would’ve won anyways. Italy always wins in the end…

@Italy

I have played 4 BotC games before this. In 3 of them, I thunderdomed the demon on the last day. We don’t talk about the fourth one…

@Italy

I always win the wars!

@Italy

/hands u…i mean down tangeld

@Italy

Tan should cast her ghost vote

@Italy

Am I the only person noticing eevee’s constant name changes?

@Italy

This can only be Kape’s doing

@Italy

Marshal is still an option!

@Italy

I’mnoteveninthethunderdomeanymoreyouabsoluteWALLNUT

@Italy

I can tell you want to whisper me to ask what my actual class is.

I’m going to tell you now. It’s ravenkeeper.

@Italy

I’m still not.

When i’m revealed as Ravenkeeper, any NON-EVILS who called me confirmed minion will NEVER live this down.

@Italy

If arete is Demon, the only minion I could be is baron. Which arete would put zero effort into saving.

If I was poisoner or god forbid, scarlet woman, I wouldn’t be so quick to swap roles with arete & eevee before I was given my bluffs and I sure as hell wouldn’t claim before getting bluffs.

If I was imp, I wouldn’t had either because i’m not fucking stupid.

@Italy

If I was Poisoner/SW i wouldn’t dare to claim before getting my bluffs.

@Italy

Please note that I, Italy, am not a god damn idiot. I will not do anything that would quickly out me as evil like claiming without bluffs.

@Italy

Let’s run through this one last time for those who decided not to listen. Marshal.

1. Baron. Arete would NOT be trying to save me if both of us were evil. That’s all I need to say here.

2. Poisoner/SW. I wouldn’t claim without my bluffs, and I wouldn’t claim a class I knew it was in play.

3. Imp/Spy. Just no. I’m not stupid. I’d be guaranteed to know what is and isn’t in play. I’m no idiot. This just CANNOT be a possibility.

@Italy

In short terms. If I were to be ANY evil, ANY evil in this game. It’d be baron. A waste of time to execute, and arete would in no way be my scumbuddy protecting me because baron is literally useless after they spawn. Killing either of us is a waste of time, no matter what you think.

@Italy

You’re going to be part of my scumspew and you’re gonna like it!

@Italy

Baron is literally as good alive as he is dead after he spawns. It’s a waste of time no matter how you see me, minion or town.

@Italy

Think about that. We have a limited number of executions. Baron’s voice will live on, and he will still be able to vote when he needs it. Why would you lynch a person who’s only possible evil class would be “Baron” instead of lynching someone in an actual PoE?

And actually think about it, don’t just say you did.

@Italy

Marshal & eevee, maybe respond so you aren’t proving my point of you’re only listening to the things that loop around to “KILL ITALY, KILL ARETE BUT KILL ITALY FIRST”

@Italy

Eevee you cannot run away now that you’ve started typing

@Italy

Only the hole, you should have it be “oo”

@Italy

It makes them 1 closer to majority because dead people still get 1 vote, which they only need to use on the very last day.

@Italy

Also I can’t be baron because a person trying to self-bus wouldn’t make the possibility of them self bussing clear, nor would they want town to be cleared of spew

@Italy

Shuri this is your time to shine

@Italy

i have proven why i’m not demon

provide a counter statement or hands down damn it

@Italy

marshal is powerwolfing hard

@Italy

because they are

@Italy

IMNOTINATHUNDERDOMEANYMOREYOUJUSTOUTEDHIMFORNOREASON

body unclear

@Italy

Gonna point out that mayor is a common demon claim so arete/wazza is a thunderdome that exists

@Italy

of course this is meaningless to me, my vote is locked

@Arete

it is indeed a thunderdome that exists

unlike me and magnus

@Italy

Kill me, you know you want to

@Italy

preferrably at night though

@Italy

top tier ST

@Italy

Magnus is not in a thunderdome with me, how many times must I say that? IM NOT THE DAMN MONK

@Italy

A little, yeah.

@Italy

SMH eevee can’t even succeed at failing

@Italy

yes but if you didn’t fail then you failed at failing

welcome to the paradox

@Italy

I’ll protect you

@Italy

Inb4 i really am monk and tricked the demon into thinking it’ll be bad if they kill me

@Italy

Don’t tell them that!

@Italy

they’re kickstarter characters

they don’t exist yet but will eventually since their goals were met

@Italy

How about you people stop calling me confirmed minion and say which you think I am, i’ll prove why i’m not.

@Italy

Of course, I expect valid anwers, not gibberish and nonsense.

And I also expect you to have heard eevee when they said it was a person who had the monk claim come up good, not a person who had me come up evil.

@Italy

ok but why tho

@Italy

Marshal is powerwolfing and it’s beyond obvious

@Italy

I have disproved claims. Name a minion and i’ll tell you why i’m not it.

@Italy

welcome to the flipless jungle

@Italy

If there isn’t an evil I can be, i’m not evil. There is no vanilla in BotC

@Italy

I can’t be any evil but baron, on the grounds that i’m not fucking stupid

@Italy

Oh, and I would be putting zero effort into this if I was baron, because the goal would be to die anyways

@Italy

the only evil I can be is baron

not only have i explained that my actions are nothing like a baron’s, but executing the baron would be a waste of time as they lose nothing important but still get another death towards majority

@Italy

he said he random spinned it

@Italy

I didn’t even accept

@Italy

Why don’t you tell me what minion you think I am?

@Italy

I can’t be anything but Baron on the grounds that i’m not stupid

I can’t be baron because i’m actively explaining why executing me is a bad idea.

@Italy

I never whispered. What are the chances i’d claim a class not in play, and not only have a minion dumb enough, but also unlucky enough, to claim the same class?

@Italy

Proof against me is nulled, i’ve pointed out reasons I can’t be evil. This has devolved into “LYNCH ITALY REEEEEEE”

@Italy

I never sent public whispers.

@Italy

Nobody that wasn’t my neighbor has neither had or sent a whisper with me

@Italy

except those people i refused to talk to

@Italy

Because I didn’t think of it. Please remember that I am speaking english here.

@Italy

The language barrier here is that people are apparently speaking some gibberish that conviniently translates anything I say that explains why i can’t be evil into unreadable nonsense and nothing else

@Italy

I can’t be anything other than baron on the grounds that i’ve played long enough and am smart enough to know how stupid claiming without bluffs is.

I can’t be baron because i’m actively explaining why killing me is useless no matter how you see it

@Italy

Which is less probable than me guessing every single evil here right now.

@Italy

Ravenkeeper.

@Italy

And when they say I am, I will say I told you so, and never let any of you live it down

@Italy

I fear for my life, it took him hours of knowing I was actually ravenkeeper for him to realize i’m not thunderdomed with the monk anymore

@Italy

And can vote.

@Italy

i’m actually kamikaze and i tricked you all

@Italy

I’m going to slap the next person to call me confirmed evil

@Italy

marshal threatened to lockscum anyone who voted to kill him

@Italy

spite scumreading is the most anti-town mindset i’ve ever seen

@Italy

strangely enough, marshal has vanished

@Italy

Wazza thinking he’ll be murdered makes me sus of him

@Italy

Didn’t you read it all?

@Italy

Mayor can bounce incoming night kills to other people.

@Italy

Since it’s an imp, tan can make the imp kill theirself and force a starpass even

@Italy

I voted on all of them

@Italy

you can vote in either

@Italy

public or classcard

@Italy

/hands down arete

@Italy

all of you are saying italy bad, but have nothing to back this up

@Italy

Four noms.

@Italy

and you should absolutely vote to kill marshal

@Italy

hands up means vote to execute

@Arete

vote to execute Tangeld

Okay!

@Italy

look me in the eyes and tell me marshal isn’t powerwolfing

@Italy

How am I confirmed minion?

@Italy

I wasn’t confirmed minion, the monk was confirmed good.

@Italy

I can ask eevee right now if there’s a ravenkeeper CC.

@Italy

Would you like to find out?

@Italy

I claimed monk because it was a class demon would want dead. That’s kinda logic.

@Italy

No.

@Italy

They both claim mayor

@Italy

Saint who fakeclaims mayor.

@Italy

should’ve claimed monk like i did

@Italy

Mayor is a really common demon claim…

@Italy

I literally can’t

@Italy

It’s too late, noms closed.

@Italy

Can we kill marshal now

@Italy

No, thats wrong!

@Italy

didn’t react to the danganronpa joke

@Italy

With SW in play, demon could be ballsy enough to do that. Also saint is an instant evil win if executed.

@Italy

No nightvigs for town.

@Italy

Wazza and I both have claims that checked out (We both claimed things that demon would want to nightkill) but wazza is definitely not acting normally

@Italy

Marshal is

@Italy

I am in zero thunderdomes now. Marshal is obviously powerwolfing

@Italy

Yeah. I think you’re poisomed

@Italy

Slayer only kills demon anyways

@Italy

Imp doesn’t decide who recieves, ST does.

Also poisoner is kinda dangerous

@Italy

There is no limiter on who evils can target.

@Italy

poison your demon wazza

@Italy

They announce for bluffs too.

@Italy

I shoot wazza, get prank’d

@Italy

Can we stop voting to kill me and vote to kill marshal thanks

@Italy

i am in no thunderdome

there is no redcheck on me

the only evil i could be is baron since the monk was greenchecked and even that’s a waste of time to kill

@Italy

marshal is evil, trust me on this

@Italy

the chances marshal is evil is so much higher than “italy had bluffs and got CCed by another evil who had one of his fellow evils fake a greencheck on him”

@Italy

Both are the same 0%. People don’t flip here.

@Italy

Eevee confirmed nobody is CCing me (in whispers)

@Italy

Forecast calls for clear skies and no thunder.

@Italy

can you people hands me down and hands up marshal

@Italy

Then can you hands down since he’s on the fence

@Italy

:thonking:

@Italy

i care for the town’s most respected animals, i have to be good

@Italy

Eevee doesn’t want to be sheeped, respect his decision.

@Italy

Can you maybe hand me down too

@Italy

I have my suspicions, my beliefs, and know for sure that this execution is better spent on marshal

@Italy

Well, eevee already knows why.

@Italy

hey can you say /hands up Marshal

@Italy

That’s why I let eevee in on my plan.

@Italy

vote to execute

@Italy

marshal is powerwolfing

@Italy

you probably have time

@Italy

/deny

@Italy

tan, i’m psychopath and i kill arete

@Italy

we should kill marshal

@Italy

who are your scumbuddies

@Italy

Figured it out and i’m not falling for it.

@Italy

They’re initials for players.

Or directions

@Italy

isn’t that just a square

@Italy

Excuse me wha-

@Italy

Hasn’t this been discussed a while ago? The only evil I could be is the baron, master of self-bus

@Italy

Because i’m not stupid enough to claim without my bluffs

@Italy

I’m not gonna claim if I know there’s a highly likely chance i’ll get CCed

@Italy

if there’s 4 of you, and you don’t have bluffs, don’t claim

@Italy

mAgNuS iSnT iN a ThUnDeRdOmE wItH mE yOu NuT

@Italy

marshal is the world’s most obvious powerwolf

@Italy

the only thing that’d make it more obvious is if he ran around yelling “IM EVIL”

@Italy

he threatened to lockscum anyone who voted hands up on him, that’s anti-town

@Italy

@Italy

marshal is either scum, or bad at town

@Italy

and i know what bad town plays are

@Italy

Eevee is the only potential powerwolf. Marshal is 100% powerwolf.

@Italy

I was cleared of any “mechanical leads” so better get thinking

@Italy

I’m the slayer and i’m shooting Shurian

@Italy

Tan’s literally typing them right now

@Italy

laughs in scarlet woman

@Italy

So marshal claimed slayer, but eevee never brought up kyo’s slayer shot

@Italy

/Slayer Shot Tangeld

@Italy

Technically she doesn’t live…

@Italy

Slayer Shot on the Clocktower

@Italy

we are burning through demon candidates

@Italy

Arete, you gotta shoot priestess.

@Italy

ghosts can’t hold guns

@Italy

@Italy

Mafia shootout!

@Italy

Arete couldn’t nom

@Italy

Good thing we can talk at night.

@Italy

Poisoner, the great hyperconfirmable town

@Italy

Phases were in the signups.

@Italy

Phases were in the signup op

@Italy

Don’t worry, i’ve practiced tying nooses. I could do it while dead. We’ll have one ready for wazza tommorow.

@Italy

How do you grab things when dead?

@Italy

you stole my iocane powder stash

@Italy

what dog

@Italy

photos or doesn’t exist

@Italy

Everyone knows i’m actually a walking corpse. That’s how I came back to life twice in Deus Ex 3

:zombuul:

[Italy]

you can’t escape forever
i’ll be the top poster eventually